Have you ever followed all the “rules” for spiritual success, only to feel more lost and disconnected from your intuition? In this profound conversation with intuitive coach Candice Thomas, we explore why trusting that quiet voice from Spirit is the only path that truly works. We get raw about the times we’ve both failed by listening to outside experts over our angels, how to discern a true spiritual nudge from fear or ego, and how to heal painful family relationships—even with those on the other side. If you’re ready to stop grinding and start truly trusting the guidance that is uniquely meant for you, this episode is your permission slip.

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Episode Highlights:

• Candice reveals why sensitive people can be the most gullible and how to strengthen your spiritual discernment.

• The powerful distinction between being a “high vibe” person and a “whole vibe” human, and why this is crucial for your spiritual resilience.

• Julie and Candice break down how to vet a spiritual coach or program to ensure it’s a true energetic fit and not a scam.

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[00:00:00] Julie: Beautiful soul. If you’ve ever wondered why your intuition feels inconsistent, this is gonna change everything. If you’ve ever wondered, Julie, how do I really get to know who my angels are? How do I learn exactly how they’re working with me? How do I tell the difference between my own thoughts and an angel message?

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[00:02:26] Julie: [00:02:27] Then go right now to the Angel medium.com/angel membership or click the link in the show notes Your Angels and I cannot wait to spend this year with you and to help you finally build the connection. You’ve been so longing for. Love you friends. Now back to the show. Hello, beautiful souls. Welcome back to the [00:02:48] Angels and Awakening Podcast.

[00:02:49] Julie: I’m your host and author, Julie Janis. And friends. If you’ve lived listened to the podcast for all 750 episodes, you’ve probably heard Candace Thomas, the Intuitive on the show earlier in the earlier years. Her and I just have a heart to heart connection and I love her so much. She’s back on [00:03:09] the show today because every time I talk to her, , I feel like it’s.

[00:03:12] Julie: Spirit just brings through really Candace. Every time I’m on the phone with you, I’m like, can we just record the entire conversation so that everybody can listen to it? Because there’s just nuggets of wisdom that pour through the entire thing. Candace, why don’t you just introduce [00:03:30] yourself first and foremost for those who don’t know you, and then we’ll jump in.

[00:03:34] Candice: Yeah, absolutely. So my name is Candace Thomas, and I am Intu an intuitive coach. That’s just a fancy pants word for I teach people. And I, I used to work heavily with entrepreneurs and then I, it works for everyone. So I opened it up to everyone who has this sense of working with spirit anyway, [00:03:51] the sense of, and that doesn’t mean becoming a professional psych medium.

[00:03:54] Candice: It can, but I’ve worked with, , physicists, I’ve worked with people who’ve been on Broadway. I’ve worked with, , lots of folks. But the point is to help a person really understand what their intuition is saying and understand how to get the information or guidance to do the next step of what they [00:04:12] wanna do.

[00:04:12] Candice: But more than that, the most powerful thing I do is when people work with me, they can feel a physical, tangible connection with God, creator, source, whatever the word is. So sometimes people have this feeling that, oh, if I’m just spiritual enough, if I’m just psychic enough, if I’m just intuitive enough, my life will be rainbows and unicorns and sunshine, and only good things will happen.

[00:04:32] Candice: I will get exactly what [00:04:33] I want. Possibly if you were the only human being in the planet, in the world, but things are gonna happen that are gonna blow up in your face even when you’re the most dialed in and the most spiritual. But having this sense of God creator connected with you, it becomes this , ah, that’s really annoying.

[00:04:50] Candice: Versus, oh no, I’m a horrible person. Why does my life stuck? Why my life stuck? Why [00:04:54] does this keep happening to me? Oh, I can, I have this force, this presence that I can tangibly feel, I don’t feel like something is missing from my life. It’s just , okay, great. Dust offs your shoulders, and what do I do next?

[00:05:05] Candice: Or now? Which is the resilience that comes from the connection with spirit. With Julie. You and your listeners already know they, they get that, yeah. , But it’s just, here’s how we do this in our day to day life and . Move [00:05:15] away , or bridge the gap between sometimes people feel like, especially who have a connection to angels or creator here’s the spiritual world, but here’s the real world.

[00:05:24] Candice: And the work that I do is to , here’s how we connect the two in a practical day-to-day way. Where it’s not just guidance and insight for people that you work with or people that you know, but guidance and insight for yourself and this [00:05:36] greater autonomy and connection to source. So all that wrapped up in intuitive coaching is what I do.

[00:05:43] Candice: So I was taught, and listen, of course, we were all taught differently by different spiritual teachers and or different things that we’ve read. So you don’t have to take what doesn’t resonate at all. So if I say something and you’re like, that sounds like [00:05:57] not even true, great. Please don’t take it, but someone taught me that, in the fall to winter, it’s so think of the earth as a living being itself, and it takes a breath, so it breathes in and it breathes out. So like during kind of spring, summer is breathing out and then we receive that energy from the planet, and then fall, winter, it’s breathing in. And so what happens, like you witness the [00:06:18] trees shut down, they rest.

[00:06:20] Candice: And in that rest, the energy that we would naturally get from the earth. Kind of retreats. And so that’s why a lot of cultures, and again, this, I don’t know the science behind it, I was taught this, but that’s why different cultures, there’s this in the winter months, let’s bring color, let’s bring together gatherings, let’s come together as community to give [00:06:39] that extra energy that might not be available from the earth, if that makes sense.

[00:06:42] Candice: Yeah. And as Julie, as you were pointing out, that’s also a time when we do feel more connections to spirit world greater than physical world. Sometimes what happens is if you are , go, I gotta look for the next gift or the next present, or I gotta, if you are not in your body, [00:07:00] if you’re only focused on all this external stuff, the psychic information or the intuitive information you’re picking up on is from other people.

[00:07:07] Candice: Not so much straight from, you’re getting all of it, but your focus, if your focus is on, social media, which is designed to be super addictive, but when things that are bad, things that are the like more signs of [00:07:21] how everything is messed up and it’s never gonna change, then that’s what your intuition brings you more of.

[00:07:25] Candice: It’s , oh, this is where your focus is at. And so this is why the holidays. Part of the reason why it can be so hard for folks is they’re not getting extra energy from the earth, and they’re getting zapped by tuning into each other. All of our struggles, all of the pain, as opposed to truly coming together in [00:07:42] communities, so that’s part of why the holidays can be a blessing, but also very challenging and bad for.

[00:07:48] Julie: And so this is interesting because you were talking about that honesty piece and empaths and how empaths really have to be in this time, very honest with themselves because you do pick up on a lot of other [00:08:03] people’s stuff. And , as you were saying, this spirit was showing me this imagery of empaths really drawing back into themselves in December from Thanksgiving, through the 12th day of Christmas drawing back into yourself to.

[00:08:20] Julie: Kind of shed some layers because over the year we’re picking up [00:08:24] all of these different things that maybe aren’t serving us and it’s a really great opportunity for us to look at what do I wanna carry into the next year? What do I just want to leave behind?

[00:08:38] Candice: Absolutely. And. I, when I first came into out of the crystal closet and realized I was a psychic [00:08:45] medium, like what I would hear from people who had been doing like professional, not all of them, but a lot of psychic mediums or a lot of channelers were, we wanna be high vibe.

[00:08:57] Candice: You don’t wanna be low vibe. And there were all these rules and I tried to follow them. I tried to follow them faithfully from other human beings. This is a high vibe. You wanna be high vibe. High vibe is the [00:09:06] way to go, and we wanna be whole vibe, which is why it doesn’t high low. We wanna be whole vibe because we’re not gonna lead with the same energy every single day.

[00:09:14] Candice: If you’ve got real life stuff happening to you, that’s like in a crisis mode. It’s. Not gonna be easy for you to be happy and positive. It might, depending on what kind of support systems you have. I apologize for my cat. He’s [00:09:27] fine. He just wants attention, I promise.

[00:09:29] Candice: Yeah. Like he can hear the, like my bra in his voice and stuff. Hold. Yeah. , but like , it, there’s all this pressure on an empath about what you ought to be, that you miss out on actually who you are and actually how you specifically connect with the energy and feel the energy and process the energy.

[00:09:46] Candice: And that’s why [00:09:48] first step is honesty. Honesty, literally meaning how does this feel physically more so than emotionally? How does this feel in my body right now? And giving yourself the grace, the permission to be like, I don’t feel great. I know I should wanna do this thing or be nice, but I don’t want to, I’m not saying that this is a jerk pass where you can go out and be [00:10:09] cruel to people or mean to people, but I think that’s the, if you are honest, you start noticing really quickly what your boundaries are now.

[00:10:17] Candice: ’cause your boundaries also shift and change. Like you might have the energy to do a whole load of extra stuff,, then. In the moment because there’s so much happening just all over the world, but individually, so honest. And the other thing that’s coming to me is [00:10:30] being honest doesn’t mean that you necessarily have to do anything about it.

[00:10:33] Candice: Like that would be great, but sometimes people are in situations where. You can’t just quit your job and this economy. Wouldn’t it be nice? Wouldn’t it be nice? But there might be things where it’s like, ah, but just being honest about this really feels challenging and I don’t know what to do. And staying with, okay, like that will help you connect to [00:10:51] spirit and bring the insight and the guidance and the energy to you that you need.

[00:10:55] Candice: And by the way, sometimes the insight, guidance, and energy is. Someone recommends to you a really good therapist, someone recommends to you a really good program like the Angel program, right? Like the, , here’s how to connect. , Sometimes it’s not just, I think we have this idea of then the [00:11:12] angels materialize in front of you and take your hand and you go on adventures.

[00:11:15] Candice: It’s , it can be that, but spirit also presents in very physical and tangible things that will help your human and your spirit. Yeah, so there’s. Not this pressure of someone who was really sweet and sensitive the other day said, how do people do it? , I was feeling really good. I felt really dialed in.

[00:11:32] Candice: I could feel [00:11:33] spirit, the angels. And then she was driving in traffic and it all went out the, the window, right? And she was like, I’m so upset with myself that I just let the ego get the best of me and I just wanna stay in that energy. And I was like, here’s the deal. You’re not gonna stay in that energy ’cause you’re alive.

[00:11:49] Candice: I, I think the only people that can stay in that energy 24 7 are really high. They’re like on [00:11:54] something or so

[00:11:55] Julie: they’re also disconnected from their life. That’s true. They’re true. There are people who are vibration holders who really don’t want to interact with life.

[00:12:06] Candice: That’s how they do it.

[00:12:07] Candice: Yes, there’s something that is they are not doing what you are doing. So I feel into the holidays, please be kinder [00:12:15] to yourself and recognize that you’re a whole vibe, not just a high vibe or a low vibe that’s out the window depending on the situation and what’s of course we don’t wanna live miserable and sad all the time.

[00:12:25] Candice: At the same time, it’s the first step is just being honest with where you’re at and trusting yourself, which is a whole other animal, but trusting yourself that if it’s not something that’s in your highest and best, [00:12:36] you’re gonna come outta that. And Julie, to your point earlier, that is the journey.

[00:12:40] Candice: And then I think people are getting really lost because they are getting what they want. And it’s still empty. It’s not fulfilling. They did all this sacrificing and put themselves in situations that they didn’t really want, but there was this idea of, I’m suffering now, so I get the thing later. There’s [00:12:57] truth to that.

[00:12:57] Candice: But if you’re genuinely doing something that is out of alignment with you, it’s not gonna make you happy. Even when you get the big prize, at the end, you’re gonna be left feeling like, why did I do all of this? And I get the same thing when I was doing mediumship. It was people having. It was more like I thought I had to follow the rules.

[00:13:14] Candice: I thought I had to do this thing versus the thing that actually made my heart [00:13:18] sing, and that’s the things that they regret. Not that I wish I had made three, 3 million more dollars or , that’s not what they care about. It literally is. I wish I had spent more time with my family. I wish I had stopped and smelled the roses.

[00:13:29] Candice: I wish I didn’t take myself so seriously, or the things that I get when I do mediumship for folks.

[00:13:34] Julie: And that’s been huge as well. And I’m seeing that [00:13:39] with a lot of healers right now in general where and I experienced this myself and I was. Grateful that spirit led me through just sometimes you have to go through the lesson in order to be like, okay, that’s it, that’s my truth.

[00:13:56] Julie: When I first started out on this path [00:14:00] and stepped away from my full-time job 2015, right? Like 10 years ago. Crazy. Congratulations. Yes. I was like. Holding fear, but also the power of the angels was just so strong coming in saying, we will show you every step. Like we will show you exactly what to [00:14:21] do every step of the way.

[00:14:22] Julie: You just had this huge, immense trust. And I would look around at what other people were doing, and spirit was like, that’s not it. That’s not it. Just don’t even pay attention to what they’re doing. Just focus in on what we tell you to do. So then when everything got to this kind of [00:14:42] like peak epitome of, success.

[00:14:45] Julie: It’s like you’re looking at coaches and just other people who Instagram is filled with that, right? You’re doing it wrong, you’re doing it wrong. If you just do it this way, you’re serving people better, right? And so you’re like, oh, out of a place of perfectionism, I wanna help as many people as I can.

[00:14:58] Julie: I wanna do the best that I can. I wanna do right by people. So then you start [00:15:03] to get into this away from the angel saying. We’ll show you exactly what to do at exactly what time. And you see so many other healers in this space of getting caught up with, I have to do it perfectly.

[00:15:19] Julie: I have to do it by the rules. There is no rule book, right there is [00:15:24] just what spirit is leading you on. And if you’re not the pure channel you’re not like with your angels bringing through what they need for your. Like your community and it’s.

[00:15:36] Candice: Easy for that to happen. It starts little by little.

[00:15:38] Candice: And this is when I say, oh, here’s the spirit world where I can listen to the angels. In the beginning I had trust, but then here’s the real [00:15:45] world with the business coach that has all these millions of dollars and all these, millions of followers and oh. That person must know more than spirit, yeah.

[00:15:54] Candice: Spirit, you got me this far. Yeah. Yeah. Cool, thanks. But this person’s actually in the, the real world, ? And that’s where that disconnect happens. And it, again, it’s just so subtle. Like the little things where it’s like, Ooh, I feel like I’m gonna write on [00:16:06] this. And then something pops in your head and goes, yeah, but the coach never writes on that.

[00:16:09] Candice: Why would you, you know? Mm-hmm. , Or you do the thing one time where I feel guided to write this. And you get no views on it or one view and it’s like your mom or something. You’re like, ah, I was wrong. What happened? And then we jump ship like, I guess I can’t trust. I’ve been trusting spirit up to now, but now I can’t trust and I gotta bail out and do something else.

[00:16:26] Candice: That [00:16:27] was a, getting into business with my ability was. It was so strange because in the beginning things just worked like butter, like everything just fell into place. Yeah, it was easy. I did the I was the model, like just trust spirit, dive in there and do it, and then here’s all your clients and here’s all your business.

[00:16:45] Candice: And that happened to me. And [00:16:48] then after a couple years it, , the client started to fade away, but that’s because I wasn’t. The people I was attracting weren’t my people. They were like the people who were willing to pay. And I could feel a disconnect in the beginning when I was working with them, but it was like, but whatever, it’s, this must be what it is.

[00:17:06] Candice: And I was it’s so subtle how, oh. [00:17:09] This isn’t my person, but they’re the ones who are showing up. So let me just keep moving down this path. Even though there was something in me that was like, huh, this is not centered. It doesn’t feel right. Yeah. And then the people telling me, if you wanna attract people, you have to mark it like this, and you have to say it like this.

[00:17:23] Candice: , And that stuff worked, but it was like, , I feel really icky. I feel really gross here. It doesn’t feel right. Oh, you just gotta [00:17:30] work on that within yourself. There’s something in you that doesn’t trust and doesn’t believe, and it’s , and that’s where. People can get mixed up. Yeah.

[00:17:36] Candice: And an example was I’d had this business coach and she was like, you gotta cold call people. So you go to these, , networking events, you get business cards. The younger people don’t even do business cards now, but it was like, and then you cold call ’em, like you make a warm connection and be like, [00:17:51] Hey.

[00:17:51] Candice: And I was like. Oh, that feels so wrong. So then we had to do all this work on my confidence. Self-worth. Yeah, self-worth. And it was like, ah, but it, it wasn’t my confidence, it wasn’t self-worth. It was something inherently within me was like, I don’t wanna work that way. And that’s not knocking the process.

[00:18:08] Candice: ’cause there are people who were like, oh my God, I wanna pick up the phone [00:18:12] and it’s more authentic. I wanna have this conversation with a stranger. I just met. Like they, I, I have a very close friend. She’s a hundred percent about that. She’s. She’s not trying to sell something. She really wants to get to know people.

[00:18:23] Candice: So for her, it would’ve been like gangbusters. , Yes, I can do that, it’s no problem. But for me it’s , oh, I can’t, like March got so furious with [00:18:33] me because I used my psychic ability to wait until I could feel the person wasn’t available. And then I would call, then I would do the cold call like.

[00:18:40] Candice: I had to leave another voicemail. Sorry. I did it. I did what you said, coach. No one picked up. And , she was like, , nah, you’re BSing. And I was like, yeah.

[00:18:49] Julie: And I How did you surrender that? How did you move through that and what [00:18:54] did Spirit bring?

[00:18:55] Candice: My business almost failed. It went to, and like people don’t really.

[00:18:59] Candice: Talk about that. ’cause it’s, we talk about Instagram, all these coaches and look happy, happy and all this money. And when I worked with that coach, she was actually. A multimillion dollar. She was a real deal, that coach. And so through her I met, and this was no one in the spiritual space. It was like the [00:19:15] business owner coaches.

[00:19:16] Candice: And I saw behind the scenes, and I saw this coach is saying they made $3 million, but they spent 4 million on the launch. So technically it’s true, but they’re not telling you they’re in a loss and they’re also scrambling. And they also have some other business coach that they’re seeing that’s , no, you just gotta hit it hard.

[00:19:30] Candice: It was a very, aggressive, almost like. I can’t even describe it. [00:19:36] It was like unsustainable and then it just I was like, I can’t do this. Like I can’t, I’m not cut out for this. This feels very just fake. And so I backed off and then that was like. Almost killed my business and I hadn’t had the clients.

[00:19:48] Candice: When I left, I’d had this imaginary bar and spirit was like, you’re never gonna get the clients until you leave. You’re never gonna be able to make the money until you go, which was true. So the [00:19:57] first couple years after I left, I was like, oh my God, God is great. It’s working. Thanks angels. And then it was like, oh, in order to maintain this, I have to keep getting icky.

[00:20:06] Candice: I have to keep giving up a little bit more and a little bit more of what I thought I was, who I thought I was and what I, how I thought I wanted to do this. And it was like, it works. It works like the cutthroat [00:20:18] strategies, like it really does work. But it was almost like I can’t, my energy is not built to grind.

[00:20:24] Candice: I cannot work 24 7, 7 days a week. Yeah., I couldn’t do that. So then the way that I handled it, Julie was not handling it at all. I just watched, I was like, I just stopped. I was like, , I can’t do this. And then I felt so much, God, what happened? You [00:20:39] told me to leave. I can’t do it this way.

[00:20:41] Candice: And it is that when your mom got sick? No. That was this year. Okay. It was like a horrible, I did a live event in Albuquerque that bombed, like we had all these people like come in from outta town to present and no audience for them. And so it was a public, huge public failure and stuff out here.

[00:20:59] Candice: And [00:21:00] I just was like, I guess that’s the end of me. I gotta figure out what I’m gonna do. Am I gonna go back to accounting? When I had felt so strongly convicted, you couldn’t tell me anything. And I was like, I didn’t understand what happened and like it was a, it was really devastating.

[00:21:14] Candice: And then I I think I was, and it happened around the holidays, right? And I was just I don’t have anything left. I had felt, so there were all [00:21:21] these voices, not. The spirit voice, just all these judgements in my head I should have done it this way. I’m not cut out for this. My coach had pretty much, I dropped my coach and she straight up told me, if you leave me, you’re gonna fail ’cause you don’t have what it takes.

[00:21:35] Candice: Oh. And , yeah, she didn’t use those exact words, but it was like that. And I apologized to her. . That’s, that was like, yeah, you’re right. I’m so sorry, I’m not cut [00:21:42] out for this. And like that’s how twisted I was. And then I like, after a few months, spirit was like, Hey. Let’s start here.

[00:21:51] Candice: And it, it was like, I, it took that long. Just clear the grief and the, I didn’t even realize how far away from myself I had moved ’cause I was so caught up in this is what you have to do. Yeah. And when I heard spirit again, it was like, [00:22:03] okay, yeah, I’m willing to do, I’m willing to step my foot out then. And then business did.

[00:22:08] Candice: It started slowly, but it started picking up again. I reconnected with people and I got to do things my way, which I could just have conversations with folks and. If I had a conversation with a person who was a good fit, they could feel me. And that was it. I didn’t have to do all this other stuff. Yeah.

[00:22:23] Candice: And then that [00:22:24] started to go well. But then I started to feel again this little bit of , ah, and it comes with that external voice that says, you should be doing more if it comes internal. That’s one thing, like spirit’s Yeah, we do want you to reach out and a, and so here’s the other thing that happened, Julie is.

[00:22:37] Candice: I get con, I would get confused. So people who are like, no one can lie to me because I read your energy is bs. If you have a blind spot, [00:22:45] you can get lied to all the time and you will believe it because. You believe like you won’t understand your, the way that the human kind of mis mingles everything up.

[00:22:55] Candice: Like you really have to be super present, but you also need other people in your life to help you along and , hey, like this is, am. I like tripping right now. ’cause this is where I usually have a blind spot. My blind spot [00:23:06] is still people pleasing from like how I grew up, and I needed to people please to survive.

[00:23:10] Candice: Yeah. And so I had prayed, it was like. Spirit, you gotta send some people here. Like I, you have to. And then that, the, that day when I had the prayer I don’t know if you’re familiar with Groupon. It’s oh yeah, Groupon or Living social. And that’s where. [00:23:27] Someone pays a really small low price and you get so they pay like $35 and you give they wanted me to offer $35 and give three readings to people because, in Albuquerque I had been a bestseller.

[00:23:41] Candice: I had done it before when I had first started out, and it had taken off like gangbusters. And so I say this prayer like, God, you gotta bring me more clients. , I [00:23:48] gotta, you gotta give me a way to do this. And then here’s this Groupon offer. And I tuned in, like just looking at it. I just burst into tears.

[00:23:55] Candice: ’cause I can’t, you’re asking me to cut a slave away, but I felt like, who am I? I had this prayer of you gotta bring me clients and then here’s this Groupon opportunity and I don’t wanna do it. Everything in my body is , no. Even though [00:24:09] logically it’s like my prayer was literally answered.

[00:24:11] Candice: And so then I felt really guilty of, oh, maybe it’s not Spirit. It’s me. I’m the one who’s turning away from spirit. I’m not doing what I need to do. If I really cared about serving people, I would do it regardless, but I was still like, I guess I just can’t do this. And then. After that is when I had my first like coaching [00:24:30] client.

[00:24:30] Candice: The way that I work now, where the next day, so this was in about like 48 hours, I would say. Someone was like, Hey, come to this channeling event of one of my mentors was channeling and it was like, all right, I’ll go. And she’s oh my God, I’m glad you came. I wanna introduce you to her. She needs to work with you.

[00:24:45] Candice: And that kind of. Turned everything around that changed my life. That was the one person that changed my life and [00:24:51] I would not have gone to that event. ’cause , it wasn’t working, like doing readings. It was like, oh, this is a long-term coaching form. And I was honest. It was like, listen, I’m new to this. I don’t, not that I don’t know what I’m doing.

[00:25:01] Candice: I have an idea, but you’re like my test subject number one and this is what I wanna charge you. And it was thousands of dollars. And she was like, yeah, that sounds actually low, but reasonable. Sure. And I was like. [00:25:12] Really, and I just mentioned that because this is where I think healers really get tripped up is yeah, we, you put out this prayer and then you get a response and it’s like you still have to use your human discernment.

[00:25:24] Candice: And this is where it’s be honest, where it’s , oh, that’s not for me. Thanks Spirit. Thanks Angels. That’s close to what I want, but that’s not, you have to keep, I [00:25:33] think the answer to finding my way back was. And it was really hard, Julie. It was really hard to ignore the voice of all the people who are genuinely successful and are doing it in a way that will kill me.

[00:25:44] Candice: And this belief of I can’t, I literally cannot do that this way. My energy when I was in grind time, ’cause I did that when I was in grind time. It was hard [00:25:54] for me to stay present when I was trying to be of service, which the whole point is I wanna reach and connect with people, and I’m not reaching connect with people.

[00:26:00] Candice: So it’s not a genuine, real fear, it’s just I’m afraid versus, Ooh, this really is out of alignment with me. But over time I came to, there’s a different physical sensation I get in my body when I am afraid and it’s gonna hurt me versus when I’m [00:26:15] afraid and I’m just BSing and I’m like, my human is human.

[00:26:17] Candice: And it’s , oh, got it. But even then, I just, I phone a friend and Hey, you know me,, what’s up what’s your hit with this? And they’ll tell me straight up if it gets really , I’m not sure, but it’s really tuning in with something feels a little off about this. And listening to myself and giving myself the grace that goes, you know [00:26:36] what I’m gonna trust you.

[00:26:37] Candice: Something feels off great. I’m not gonna do this thing. And that can be extremely hard when bills might be coming in faster than your revenue or when it looks like the fear of missing out. And I find this a lot when I get opportunities to tag team with people. Yeah. And. So many [00:26:57] people want to tag team with me all the time for stuff, and I have to be , very careful about, this person is dynamite, they’re amazing, but we’re not gonna gel together like the way that we work, it’s gonna be an issue.

[00:27:09] Candice: Yeah. Or, and trusting that of, yeah, I could have gone next level if I’d been on this other person’s platform or done this thing with them, but there’s something about it that feels. [00:27:18] Off. Yeah. And then, sometimes you don’t get the validation. Sometimes you do. Where I hear horror stories from other people, I’m like, oh, I’m glad I didn’t do that thing.

[00:27:26] Candice: But sometimes it’s , and it doesn’t mean that the other person is bad or that the program is wrong, it’s just for whatever reason, now’s not the time or this is not a fit. And uh, another thing with that is if someone starts to pull me out of. [00:27:39] Not out of, it’s not out of integrity, like it’s bad or wrong, but it’s oh, .

[00:27:42] Candice: I know that doesn’t, I already did that. I already know that’s not the highest and the best for me and the way that I connect people and work. Yeah. So one time I did something and she was. Very rigid and , it turned out okay. But I had a disconnect with,, there were three of us and I had a disconnect with one of the people who was a [00:28:00] part of the group because they just had a different philosophy and it was intuition for business leaders.

[00:28:05] Candice: And they wanted to really focus on kind of the business more so the business side, the, in the intuitive side. And I was like I feel like it’s the opposite. It’s we gotta work internal and then to the external. And they were coming up with, they really wanted it more science backed.

[00:28:20] Candice: [00:28:21] Approaches, which I get that a hundred percent fine, but it’s but you also. Asked a psychic medium to be here, so I’m not quite sure why now being here. Yes. Like it’s like I, and so you want me to go, it’s like I can, I do have a, I used to be a good little psychic medium and have my like, here are all the case studies, or here’s all like proof of evidence, but people can shoot that down too.

[00:28:39] Candice: Now I don’t get into that. That’s not the thing I’m most interested in. [00:28:42] And so I started to feel again, like you’re asking me to be. Small, like you’re asking me to not do what I need to do, and then spirit’s , tap. You should be doing your own thing.

[00:28:51] Candice: That’s that sign. I’m like, you’re right. Can’t hide behind other people. Gotta get out in front and do stuff, so a hundred percent.

[00:28:57] Julie: Yeah. , It’s so interesting you brought up so many different thoughts for me. , There’s sometimes in my life where life has [00:29:03] just gotten. So busy and so chaotic that I haven’t talked to my mom or my sister in a week, 10 days.

[00:29:09] Julie: 10 days later, people are texting me. , Is she talking about you? She put up an entire podcast episode about how I was a horrible person because. I didn’t have her on my show, and I was like, I would’ve gotten you back on the [00:29:24] show. We have six months to do this. . And so it’s just, I’ve heard Elizabeth Gilbert talk about this a lot too, where.

[00:29:33] Julie: We just went and saw a wicked part two last night, and I don’t know if this is what they’re trying to say, but no good deed goes unpunished. . You’re trying to do good, you’re trying to do good, and then even stuff that you [00:29:45] try to put out that’s good comes back on you sometimes.

[00:29:47] Candice: Yeah. And again, it’s kind of people who are, and that’s why when people are like, , I’m never full because I read your energy, not, it’s no, you’re full of all the time. If you’re sensitive, you really do have to stay centered because you are the most gullible if you are super sensitive.

[00:30:02] Candice: Yeah. To be, if you believe someone’s words over your own heart, over your [00:30:06] own, and it’s, I like what you said, you can feel it in your body, not like your very first impression, not the second thought that goes, this is like a really sweet lady and she does so much and yeah, like why wouldn’t I? It’s like you don’t.

[00:30:17] Candice: And that’s the hard part. That’s the faith of , something in you was going, no, never Uhuh say no. And then the second voice is going, Aw, but she’s so sweet. , Or whatever. And [00:30:27] just trusting, being willing to trust and being. And that’s easy for me to say, but that’s ’cause I lived through it. Like that thing that really failed spectacularly live in front of everyone.

[00:30:35] Candice: Spirit had told me straight up at the very beginning, , no I felt no, I heard no. And , they talked me into no, but it’s so good for the community and this is really good. There’s gonna be 11 of us. So it’s not just gonna be you. ’cause , my first flash was, no, I [00:30:48] don’t want the responsibility of, and then I’m doing all this as I’m trying to build my own thing.

[00:30:51] Candice: And then what happened? The 11 people vanished and there it got down to three of us and it was like, oh, I don’t know how to do this part of it. Like I, but anyway, that’s a, an aside, but Totally. And it, it doesn’t, and remember that when we get the guidance, it doesn’t have this strong powerful no that, it’s just sort , [00:31:09] Hey, no.

[00:31:10] Candice: And no girl. No. And that’s it. And so because there’s not this strong, deep emotional response, it’s like that’s when we can go into doubt. , I don’t know, but they seem nice. Let me, and then we always think we’re smarter. If it gets too bad, I’ll just drop out. And it’s , no, you’re gonna get sucked in.

[00:31:23] Candice: You’re gonna get sucked in. Yeah. And that’s okay too because like you were saying before, and that’s like. [00:31:30] Having more grace. Sometimes you don’t know until, , , now I am more willing to trust because I learned about those lessons of, oh, it started to feel a little off and I just went with it.

[00:31:38] Candice: And now I know, listen, , I don’t have a good reason for saying no to this, but I just, something isn’t resonating with me and that’s fine. And most people are usually cool with that. And it’s , I have the same grace for other people where I might wanna do [00:31:51] something and they’re like, nah, I’m not feeling it.

[00:31:52] Candice: I’m like, all right. That’s cool. You know For sure

[00:31:55] Candice: And. I think that’s where people get caught up in feeling like it. I have to do it this way or no one’s gonna come. Yeah. Assuming that they’re ethical, they’re always unethical people that are out there just to swindle people. But I think good people get caught up in, oh, , here’s a way [00:32:12] to do it.

[00:32:12] Candice: Here’s a way to say it, but unfortunately everyone is starting to learn what chat GBT looks like. . What I say is, if anyone, if you ever see a program and you really feel like ’cause all the language is amazing, . A question to ask is because sometimes people really are on the fence where it’s , I’m not sure.

[00:32:30] Candice: It and people, it’s like there’s so much [00:32:33] happening. It’s like you need to rest. If we were to work together, it would be overwhelming. You don’t need one more thing. It’s like you just need to chill out. Talk to me in three months again and we’ll see where you’re at. Yeah. But the question I’d say is, if you are thinking about a program or working with a coach of any kind, if you can ask the question, Hey, what are examples of.

[00:32:51] Candice: People who didn’t make it through your program, who [00:32:54] didn’t get the results, what was the reason why? . And if you have a person that’s , everybody makes it through, they’re a scam, that’s a straight up a hundred percent scam. Yeah. If they are legit and they’ll tell you, oh. Because. They weren’t dedicated enough or, , that’s probably a program where you’re, they’re expecting you to grind time 24 7.

[00:33:11] Candice: And the last coaching program I did, the reason that the person [00:33:15] told me was, , they hide, they don’t participate. , if you’re struggling, talk to us. We’re there for you. That’s why we have all these things built in. Yeah. And I felt really safe. It was like, yeah, okay, great.

[00:33:23] Candice: And I know if I wanna succeed, I can’t hide. And it was like, tell me more about that. What are the ways to connect with you? Is it, I can only email you? Is someone gonna talk to me? Yeah. What’s the ratio? Is it like one person and there’s a hundred of us and [00:33:36] this person had really built out their coaching program where there were like a lot of people, so it was more like 10 people to a.

[00:33:42] Candice: 10 coaching clients to a coach, and I was like, oh, yeah, that is reasonable. To me, that means that, , I’ll be responded to versus a fly by night that is, you pay $10,000 for your half hour phone call in a group and don’t get to, and no one’s reviewing your [00:33:57] work or what you’ve done.

[00:33:58] Candice: Yeah. , And the price point. I don’t care about price. I don’t think that most programs are too expensive. It doesn’t matter if you get what you say you’re gonna get out of a program, then you know, it’s not about that. But it is about a lot of people in, when I was coming up in the coaching world, a lot of people were being told like, here’s how you charge more and do less.

[00:34:17] Candice: That was the [00:34:18] vibe. Yeah. And it was like, and that’s one of the things I didn’t resonate with, and not that you have to give it all away. I understand the boundaries of it, but it’s also like I don’t want someone to walk away feeling like. They didn’t get enough. And you can’t, I have no control over what a person thinks, but for me, I wanna know that, you know what I say, you’re gonna get, you’re gonna get, [00:34:39] and a little bit more probably if you work with me, like, I wanna exceed your expectations.

[00:34:43] Candice: Not

[00:34:43] Julie: A billion percent. That’s how I feel all the time. And you can’t hide, right? That’s all you have to do is reach out, let’s work through it. Let’s find a way to, to bring you back. And it’s so

[00:34:55] Candice: interesting that. People, sadly, it seems like [00:35:00] sometimes healers, psychics, intuitives mediums.

[00:35:04] Candice: We, we get into this work and a lot of us have had some pretty challenging childhoods, ? Yeah. I feel like there’s this kind of like we’re used to holding the space for other people and not for ourselves. We’re used to being the rock for everyone else. The problem is the rock then becomes the thing you hide [00:35:21] behind to not deal with your stuff.

[00:35:22] Candice: To not deal with your own pain is you gotta go help everyone else. And then it’s , oh, I can’t really change. It’s , , it’s almost like energetically crucifying yourself. It’s like this is the way and it’s doesn’t have to be the way you’re not supposed to be suffering to do the things that you love and you’re not supposed to be suffering to do the work.

[00:35:37] Candice: And that’s a really good point, is. I’ve had clients where it’s I was really going through [00:35:42] it for three days, but I didn’t wanna call you. ’cause I have a call me policy too. And I’m like, why didn’t you call? I don’t wanna be negative. I don’t, I’m like, what are you talking about?

[00:35:50] Candice: I don’t wanna bother you. I don’t wanna, yeah, it’s not a bother. It’s not bother. And you have to retrain people because they’ve probably been around folks that if you expressed your needs, you were getting whacked, , you were getting put down verbally [00:36:03] or physically. And so you have to retrain him and go, Hey, so I want you to trust me.

[00:36:07] Candice: That if I can’t handle it, I’m not gonna answer the phone at that time. I’ll get back to you, but I want you to trust me that, what I say and building that level of, and so that’s again, that’s okay. And it’s like I, and then it’s no one ever abuses that. No one ever abuses , I’m gonna call you twenty four seven because it’s oh, [00:36:24] everyone is, almost again too, I don’t wanna say too self-sufficient, but it becomes this like armor where.

[00:36:32] Candice: If your human is refusing like physical help from another human, what are you blocking from spirit? What are you also not allowing from the angels to reach you because you feel like it’s not serious enough? My pain isn’t serious enough yet.

[00:36:44] Julie: We’ve [00:36:45] both been through the lesson, which. Often stirs in a lot of people in December of, , I really wanted my mom to be this way, right?

[00:36:53] Julie: Or, I really wanted my dad to be this way. I didn’t get what I needed from my dad. And when that person is on the other side, there’s a second sentence that’s added into that. [00:37:06] I haven’t ever gotten what I needed from them, and I never will. And that isn’t the truth because, , we both know what it’s like to have somebody on the other side.

[00:37:14] Julie: And you have a better relationship with them now. Yes. And you’re in daily communication with them and it’s great. Now wasn’t back then for those who are struggling with that in [00:37:27] December now. Missing loved ones, wishing the relationship was different. What information does Spirit want you to bring through to them?

[00:37:36] Candice: I feel like first and foremost theme of the day, trust yourself and be honest. My dad was extremely verbally and emotionally abusive, he was an exploder. So he would stand me up and [00:37:48] then scream at me and I, and like when my parents got divorced, I just lived with him and he would tell me every day I was stupid, I was ungrateful, I was gonna get pregnant and he would have to rate, mind you, I had almost a 4.0 GBA at the time I was on the Honor Roll Society.

[00:38:02] Candice: And so there, there came a point. When I was younger where I had this belief of, I just, he just doesn’t [00:38:09] understand if I just prove to him. No. ’cause his big thing was I do all this stuff for you and you don’t do anything for me. Mind you, I’m a child. Sir, you’re legally obligated. I can’t return, I can’t.

[00:38:20] Candice: If you buy me something, school supplies like I. I legally can’t work to give you back the supplies. But I was older than that. I was a teenager, but still, , he wouldn’t have allowed me to work. I had to take care of the household [00:38:30] after my parents got divorced and we lived with him which is a whole other thing.

[00:38:33] Candice: He convinced my mom and us as kids that he was the better parent and her self-esteem was so destroyed that she was like, sure. And just, which wow. That was like a whole, the rage I felt when I realized what happened many years later. There was this, like my dad never changed. There was never an [00:38:51] understanding.

[00:38:51] Candice: He never understood everything I tried to do to prove that I loved him. It would get twisted and, . I broke off contact, we went no contact for , probably 10 years, and then I went to limited contact. And so what I would say is two things you hear all the time. When I was back, , remember little baby psychic medium,, I wasn’t a baby.

[00:39:10] Candice: I was like [00:39:12] 29, but into the spiritual spaces and, oh, you gotta forgive your dad, you gotta forgive your dad, you gotta forgive your dad. You gotta forgive your dad. And I’m like, I can’t forgive. What do you mean? All I had was rage and I could say the words, but it wouldn’t go anywhere. And it, at times it would feel like someone is saying to a depressed person, have you tried [00:39:33] being happy?

[00:39:33] Candice: What do you mean forgiveness? When there were so many things that went unacknowledged. There were so many secrets that I kept for my family to not ever talk bad about my dad , in public, and . He stayed mean until the end and he died unexpectedly and after he passed.

[00:39:51] Candice: And I like, I, I did know that it [00:39:54] was at the time, but I’d gotten, oh, I must be, he must be contacting me ’cause my voice is going spirit stuff. , When he was alive, I thought I had dealt with the fact that I wasn’t gonna get the dad that I wanted. But when he died, the finality of what you just said, it’s , oh, I’m never gonna have the dead that I wanted.

[00:40:13] Candice: And the grief that came with that really [00:40:15] shook me and , leveled me. That leveled me for six months. And I had to stop everything ’cause it was like. And I was really surprised ’cause I was like, I didn’t even think I liked my dad that much, but that’s just the power that a parent can have on us and all this stuff.

[00:40:30] Candice: Moving underneath the scenes, behind the scenes and stuff. And when my dad came to me, [00:40:36] he asked permission, first off, which he never would’ve done when he was alive. He was like, Hey, is it a kind of , I could feel him hovering? It’s is this all right? ’cause. You get to say yeah, I can come or no, I can’t come near you.

[00:40:47] Candice: And it was like,, yeah, sure. And he showed me definitively. He was like, listen, there’s nothing you could have done. There’s nothing you could have said. [00:40:57] It was like there was something wrong with his brain. Like the way that he saw the world and processed information, he showed it to me. And that was the first time after he was on the other side that I even realized he loved me.

[00:41:07] Candice: I legit thought he didn’t like me. There was. Fake dad and real dad, fake dad in public, and then real dad who would scream and say all these things like, how could you love me if you’re so cruel? And it, [00:41:18] and then it was like, oh, he did love me. And at the same time, he genuinely believed no one in the world loved him.

[00:41:25] Candice: And that’s just my dad. That’s not what happens with everyone.

[00:41:27] Candice: And just know that there’s nothing that you could have done and think you could have said because this is how I was. And that was like, oh, okay. And he helps me out Now with, , I, I’ve been dabbling [00:41:39] as a hobby of getting into filmmaking and, , he was, oh, tell me more about this. So I.

[00:41:47] Candice: Julie, this is one of the psychic things where I literally woke up and was like, I need to make a movie like outta nowhere. Like I’ve liked writing, I’ve liked writing my whole entire life. I’ve taken screenwriting classes my whole entire life. I always thought, , I’m [00:42:00] gonna try to like write a script and then .

[00:42:02] Candice: Nowhere. And I was a hundred percent my dad being like, and my dad, when he was alive, when I had opened up communication for limited contact, he would make , independent movies for the church, for Christian churches and stuff. And so it’s , and , it was, they weren’t great. But also I was really proud.

[00:42:16] Candice: I was really proud of him for doing that. ’cause that’s so hard. It’s so cool. Yeah. And [00:42:21] so I, my dad would tell me before he passed, , you don’t need to just write the thing. You can, you’re smart enough. Why don’t you just make the movie? And it was like, I’m not smart enough. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

[00:42:32] Candice: So I, I would write a script in the month and then I would film it using my iPhone. . And like the first one I cheated and it was more voiceover work, so I acted in it and I did like the [00:42:42] voices in it. And the scripts are like, the first one’s long, it’s like 10 minutes, but the other two are about like five minutes.

[00:42:47] Candice: And, just different things. And it was really cool and really fun to do. And so now I’ve got my notice spirit wants me to make a longer feature film, . That’s what I’ll be doing next. That’s amazing. Yeah. Congratulations. Thank you. And it’s silly, [00:43:03] it’s not tied to anything but the expression of making art and creativity.

[00:43:07] Candice: , Everyone’s , oh, how is that tied to your business? Are you trying? I’m like, it doesn’t, I just want to, yes. It’s like I, I don’t have this deep and now I’m gonna move to Hollywood , and do the thing. Like I, I did when I was younger, but then I was like. I work with people who are in Hollywood and it’s like we were talking earlier where [00:43:24] the people who are in it and stay, they really love their craft.

[00:43:27] Candice: You have to because it’s so hard. It’s forget all the personalities and stuff. It’s just so hard to get anything you want made if you’re relying on other people to make it much. It’s still hard if you do it yourself, but it will get done if you’re invested in doing it. ’cause people are all trying to.

[00:43:43] Candice: Make their own dreams happen. So [00:43:45] anyway, so that’s how I can feel my dad helping out with stuff. And then he also, him and my grandma, who’s been on the other side for a while, they bring me clients too. And I can always tell, because people who come to me have usually just lost someone and they’re like, I don’t even know why I feel like reaching out.

[00:44:00] Candice: It’s oh, I know why my people on the other side working with your people. And they know that this is the, , it’s like the whole deal [00:44:06] of. When someone, yeah, you

[00:44:07] Julie: can see it. You can see when like your people are standing next to their people. Yeah.

[00:44:11] Candice: And they’re like, Hey, , and oh. And that’s a part of, helping a person understand and like to bring it back to the holidays.

[00:44:18] Candice: And so I said all that to say if you had someone that was abusive to you, even if you don’t wanna use the word abusive, but they were really controlling and uncomfortable, [00:44:27] if you don’t wanna connect with them, you don’t have to and you don’t have to feel bad about that. And you, I personally don’t believe that you have to forgive.

[00:44:35] Candice: If you’re not ready to forgive. You have to, whatever you have to , work through it. I don’t believe that it holds you back by not forgiving, because even if you forgive someone, you’ve still gotta do. The other work, you’ve still gotta rebuild your [00:44:48] self-confidence and self-worth and self-esteem, like those are two different animals.

[00:44:52] Candice: And do what you feel called to do and give yourself really grace and permission around. That is how I feel. If you do wanna connect with someone, just be open to it. A lot of times, I believe everyone is a psychic medium for your own people. A hundred percent, yep. They do come [00:45:09] around, but then you talk to someone and they go, oh, that’s just a coincidence.

[00:45:12] Candice: Like they just dismiss it and you go, oh, I guess it was just a coincidence. So I would say that’s where trusting yourself and trusting your experience and being willing to be vulnerable and believe it, and understanding that. It’s okay if it doesn’t feel good during the [00:45:30] holidays. Un like being honest about, man, I really do wish I had a mom that was still here or mom who loved me or dad who loved me or dad, who would act like a dad.

[00:45:40] Candice: Like just, understanding that about yourself and. Giving yourself grace because again, depending on someone’s I’m, because of the experience with my dad, I’m person number one where [00:45:51] it’s oh, if , I’m not welcome, I’m not coming. I don’t play the game of here’s the family dynamic. But other people, they feel obligated to do that and that’s okay.

[00:45:59] Candice: There is not a wrong, like Julie, you were saying with business, everyone has all these rules for how you should act and there are some people who feel like. If this person is family, you show up regardless because they’re family and there’s other people that’s like, you cut everybody outta your life [00:46:12] instantaneously and there’s a whole range of things in between.

[00:46:16] Candice: And so it really falls on what feels right and good for you in the moment. And trusting yourself even though trusting that initial first voice, not the second, which will be so different. And love all over yourself. When spirit’s impressing upon me. Be sweeter and sweetness [00:46:33] is the words so sweet that you get cavity sweet with yourself.

[00:46:36] Candice: , Oh my God, I’m so proud of that thing. I did like the way that we talk to puppies and babies or kittens. Oh, I love that. That kind of energy is what we need right now. It’s like I’m so proud, , oh. Even if you do things that you’re not proud of Ooh, I really showed my ass there is what I’ll sometimes say.

[00:46:50] Candice: , Girl, you really showed up. That was not the best. And then it’s like [00:46:54] laughing about it like, yeah, we’re gonna have to do better next time. That was wild, , of some acknowledgement. So this isn’t like permission to be a jerk, but definitely permission to forgive yourself, permission to understand why you are reacting that way.

[00:47:07] Candice: To come at yourself with a. Curiosity versus a judgment. Like, why am I tripping? Oh, , this is the first, [00:47:15] or this will be the second Christmas without my dad. And like the first Christmas, I think I was just like a little bit shell-shocked. And this Christmas it’s , oh, okay, but I can’t experience my dad in a different way now where there’s not all this heaviness around it.

[00:47:28] Candice: There’s not all this. I gotta walk on eggshells and he’s gonna say this and I’m gonna say that, or I gotta avoid him. A hundred percent. It’s , oh, we can have [00:47:36] this different experience where we can just love each other and there’s not all this performance or. Wondering, , it’s , oh, okay. I did have a dad.

[00:47:45] Candice: I never knew that when he was alive, but I still have a dad now. It’s just in a different way. And he does, , he helps me. And this is I’m not, I don’t feel like I’m explaining it enough, but like [00:47:57] they can do more on the other side sometimes than they could do here. Imagine that because of the relationship I had with my dad, if he tried to give me any advice, even if it was in my highest healing and best, I’d be like, nah, who are you?

[00:48:09] Candice: You can’t tell me anything. Don’t tell me shit after what, , our relationship was like. . Whereas now it’s , oh yeah, okay, that’s fine. And also. They [00:48:18] really can move things. They move people sometimes, like literally, but they can put people even including you or other folks on your path where it’s , oh, here’s this thing I wanted.

[00:48:27] Candice: Here’s the way to get there. And it’s, . There’s not this mess of, when my dad was alive, if he did anything for me, it was a tit for tat. I would owe him. And now it’s just because he wants [00:48:39] to and it’s just love there. There’s not all this pressure.

[00:48:41] Julie: I want everybody though, to know what website to go to, what Instagram handle to go to, because I know so many people are gonna wanna work with you.

[00:48:49] Julie: Candace.

[00:48:49] Candice: Yeah, Candace thomas intuitive.com and you can also find me on Instagram, Candace Intuitive, , C-A-N-D-I-C-E-I-N-T-U-I-T-I-V-E. I’d love [00:49:00] to, if you feel connected to this, hop onto my newsletter. I send out information about upcoming classes and workshops. Also for this month, I got a downloaded, , here’s a channeled blessing.

[00:49:10] Candice: I do healing circles last Sunday of every month. If you wanna hop into those that are really tailored to whatever your spirit is saying that. You need.

[00:49:18] Julie: Thank you so much for being here and also [00:49:21] for the healing that you did. It was beautiful.

[00:49:23] Candice: Yeah. You , you bet. Thank you again for having me. This is a joy.

[00:49:27] Candice: Friends, I need your help

[00:49:29] Julie: reaching as many people as possible. If you’d like to support this podcast and help us spread more hope to the world, please book a session with me.

[00:49:39] Julie: Join my Angel membership, or take my [00:49:42] Angel Reiki school. What’s the difference? If you’d like to know what messages your angels and loved ones have for you, you’ll wanna book a session with me. The Angel membership is all about your own personal spiritual healing. The membership takes you on a spiritual journey that teaches you how to create your own [00:50:03] heaven on earth.

[00:50:04] Julie: And the Angel Reiki School is for those who wanna get certified in mediumship, angel messages and energy healing all at once. These are three ways you can help us share a message of hope and love with more people than ever before. Register for one or [00:50:24] all3@theangelmedium.com. That’s the angel medium.com.

[00:50:29] Julie: Now, let’s pray together as we do. I want you to pray in a way where you feel as though everything you want for yourself and the world has already come true, and you’re giving thanks. Why? [00:50:45] Because this is the best way to manifest. So let’s begin. God, universe, source. Thank you. We’re so grateful that you’ve blessed this world with calm and peace.

[00:50:58] Julie: For all this, calm and peace has spread like ripples, soothing the hearts of every [00:51:06] soul. Thank you for opening our hearts to abundance, allowing each of us to live our most authentic life and helping us to create our own heaven on earth. We thank you for the love and deep heart to heart connection that surrounds us every day in our relationships.

[00:51:26] Julie: We [00:51:27] thank you for the abundance of health and aliveness. We feel radiating from every cell in our and our families bodies. Thank you for the gift of walking this life with us and guiding us every step of the way through your messages. We hear you through our own intuition, and we feel [00:51:48] you walking right by our sides and we overflow with gratitude.

[00:51:54] Julie: Thank you for financial abundance and abundance of opportunities and miracles, blessings and prosperity in every way. We know that you want us to succeed so that we can show others how you want [00:52:09] them to succeed too. Thank you for the boundless love, kindness, empathy, and compassion that binds us all together.

[00:52:18] Julie: Thank you for the laughter, fun moments of pure delight that fill us every day, especially today. God, universe, source. Thank you for blessing us beyond measure and allowing [00:52:30] us to use our souls, gifts, talents, skills, and abilities to serve the world. We love you. I love you, and in this we pray, amen. Friends, we’re working on some pretty major things over here and if you wouldn’t mind saying a little prayer that these things come to fruition, if they’re God’s will, we’d so appreciate [00:52:51] it and please add a little prayer and for any specific thing you need right now too.

[00:52:57] Julie: Have a beautiful, blessed day.