In this episode, Julie sits down with actor and author Josh Pais to explore the concepts in his new book, “Lose Your Mind: The Path to Creative Invincibility.” They discuss how to transform overwhelming emotions like anxiety and fear into creative fuel, break free from the myth of “good and bad” feelings, and cultivate a malleable identity that allows for spiritual growth. Josh shares a powerful, live exercise on working with the energy of overwhelm and details his “Four Access Points to Presence”—practical tools to quiet the mind and access spontaneous creativity. Julie also shares a personal story about following a creative nudge from spirit and how her daughter’s involvement in acting mirrors these principles.

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Episode Highlights:

• Josh breaks down why the belief in “good and bad emotions” is the greatest myth of our time and how to reframe your relationship with any feeling.
• A live, practical demonstration of how to drop the story and connect with the pure vibrational energy of a sensation like overwhelm.
• Learn the Four Access Points to Presence—simple tools involving the body, breath, and environment to instantly quiet mental chatter and open the creative channel.
• The powerful question to ask yourself: “How much love will you let yourself feel before you try to protect yourself?”

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• 00:00 Introduction and Julie’s Personal Journey
• 03:29 Welcoming Josh Pais and a Story About Ninja Turtles
• 04:27 Julie Shares Her Current Challenges
• 05:10 How Our Mind and Nervous System Keep Us Blocked
• 07:53 Julie’s Story of Acting on a Creative Impulse
• 11:53 The Power of Spontaneity and “Inner Atomics”
• 14:18 Defining “Creative Invincibility”
• 15:40 The Greatest Myth: Good vs. Bad Emotions
• 17:46 A Practical Exercise: Feeling Overwhelm as Energy
• 22:58 What It Really Means to “Nail” a Creative Moment
• 27:57 The Hunger for Realness and Vulnerability
• 29:21 Should You Share Your Story Before You’re Healed?
• 33:10 How Much Love Will You Let Yourself Feel?
• 38:13 The Power of a Malleable Identity
• 40:00 The Four Access Points to Presence
• 47:08 Stepping into the “I Don’t Know”
• 49:24 Where to Find Josh Pais and His Book

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TRANSCRIPT:

[Julie] (0:00 – 3:29)

Hello friends, welcome to the Angels and Awakening podcast. I’m your host, Julie Jancis. If you love this podcast, please be our angel.

Ask a friend to listen, subscribe, rate us 5 stars, leave a positive review, and share a screenshot of this podcast on your Facebook or Instagram stories. So my dad passed away in 2015. We weren’t talking and it took a month for his family to track me down.

Before I ever knew he was gone, I started hearing from him in heaven. It consumed me. How is communication with the other side even possible?

I left my corporate gig, studied with spiritual teachers on every coast, and worked with my angels to figure out the answers. Today, my mission is teaching you how to raise your vibration, shift your thoughts, trust your intuition, develop your unique spiritual gifts, and connect with your loved ones and angels on the other side. Friends, when you have these tools, life really does become heaven on earth.

Hello, beautiful souls. Welcome back to the Angels and Awakening podcast. I’m your host and author, Julie Jancis.

Friends, if you didn’t get to listen to the episode on Thursday, September 25th, that was last Thursday, you have to go listen to it. If you have been listening to the podcast this year, you know that my nervous system has just been wrecked by everything that I’ve been through, my kiddos been through this year. We’re doing something for an entire year where we’re just keeping it positive.

It’s not toxic positivity. It’s just I really feel the angels calling us all back to love, to service, to our soul self. I am so excited.

Every probably quarter, I sit down with a woman who helps me bring on people onto the show. I saw Josh’s book come up. It’s called Lose Your Mind.

I go, oh my God, I have to get this guy on the podcast, have to talk to him because this book looks incredible. I have to tell you this story, Josh. I had to make one of the biggest decisions of my life in 1988 or 89, about then, living in St. Louis, Missouri at the time. My dad came home from work and he gave me this option. He said, tonight you can either go trick or treating or you can go see the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles in concert. I swear it was one of the hardest decisions I ever had to make.

It crushed my heart so much because I chose to go trick or treating, but it was such a tough decision. For those of you who don’t know, Josh Pace, he was the Raphael from the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. The only turtle, did you say, to be inside the costume and the voice at same time?

[Josh Pais] (3:29 – 3:31)

Yeah, in the original movie, yes.

[Julie] (3:32 – 3:40)

Wow. You’ve created this new book, Lose Your Mind, which comes out tomorrow, actually.

[Josh Pais] (3:41 – 3:42)

September 30th, yeah.

[Julie] (3:42 – 3:55)

It’s all about creativity. As I was reading through, it’s really all about connecting, I think, to service. I think that when we are creative ourselves, we’re of service to the world.

[Josh Pais] (3:56 – 4:26)

Yeah, absolutely. It’s just accessing just the richest part of ourselves. What’s going on?

You said, I’m just catching up with you, but you said you’ve been through so much. What’s going on? Maybe we can play around with that.

It’s not necessarily the story of everything, but what’s going on in your body right now? Maybe we can jump off from there.

[Julie] (4:27 – 5:09)

Yeah. I had a hysterectomy this last year. I had really severe endometriosis that was causing me a lot of pain.

When you have a hysterectomy, your hormones can get all off whack. Yeah. It can take a little bit of time for that to just get back to normal.

Then my daughter’s been going through this trifecta of different things happening. Just took her to the cardiologist today. Just got back and found out there’s another thing on top of everything.

It’s just been a year. I want to keep everything loving and positive. I just feel called to share this.

We all get blocked with our creativity sometimes.

[Josh Pais] (5:10 – 5:40)

Everybody gets blocked and lose your mind. The path to creative invincibility is a way to get unblocked and get unblocked every time our mind gets in the way. We have to know that our mind is going to do everything it can to keep us blocked and keep us in the past, keep us in the future, keep us small, keep us safe.

I almost have this image of our nervous system as one of our ancient grandmothers.

[Julie] (5:41 – 5:43)

Yeah, you talk about that in the book.

[Josh Pais] (5:43 – 7:53)

Who can’t see too well. She’s concerned about you and is like, don’t go. Don’t go outside.

Just stay in the cave. We have to recognize as we extend further out into the world, which can be opening the first page of something you want to write or going on stage or publicly speaking, we have to know that any time we extend outward, there’s going to be more vibration in our body. A couple of things to play with is one is literally talking to your nervous system and say, we’re okay.

We’re stepping into the unknown, but we’re not going to die. The grandma just assumes if you go on stage, you’re going to die. That’s one thing.

Just to trust that all that energy that’s there as we extend outward is creative fuel. It’s your system giving you juice to play with. So often when the juice, the sensations, the emotions build up, we want to manage it and suppress it so that we got it together.

As soon as we manage, suppress, alter, shift, jam down, we’re signaling to our nervous system, we’re signaling to our body, I don’t want to feel you. As soon as we do that, because we’re alive, our attention has to go somewhere. Maybe you have been able to disconnect from your body.

Then you’re going to be in your head telling you, you’re doing it wrong. It’s not going to go well. Everybody else is further ahead.

You’re to this, you’re not enough that, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And so my game, what I’ve been experimenting really my whole life is when that charge is there, ride it, don’t hide it. Get on that train.

There’s no bad energetic, emotional sensation in your body if we party with it.

[Julie] (7:53 – 9:31)

Oh, I love that. I love that. So recently I had felt this calling from the angels to have more local because I built the podcast up.

It’s doing wonderfully. It’s all around the United States and the world. But you have to have that local connection, right?

Just connecting heart to heart with other women. So I had this big group of ladies over to my house and they were like, Julie, you know what I miss is before COVID, you had the tape massage table set up in your house. You would work on people just right in your home while Blake’s at work, your daughter’s at school.

And I was like, Oh my God, you’re right. So I went out the next day with my husband over to Menards. We ordered some doors and we’re like, we’re just going to turn the dining room into my office where people come over and I do readings over there, set up the massage table again.

And so I was talking to my friend on the phone today and she’s like, that’s what I love about you, Julie. I love that when spirit brings in an idea, you just go execute it. You don’t even think about it.

You just go do it. And I think that that’s what you’re talking about here is like writing it instead of I could have hemmed and hawed on that for a couple of months, but you just hop on it. And as soon as I did this entire creativity space opened up, okay, well, how am I going to decorate this?

What’s the ambience going to be so that when people come in, what are they going to smell? What are they going to feel? And I think creativity for me breeds more creativity, more like soul joy.

Does it for you too?

[Josh Pais] (9:31 – 10:04)

Absolutely. And you know what you’re talking about, about going ahead and doing it anyway. You know, I think some people are like, there’s the thinnest membrane.

And on one side, you’re like, oh, you know, what’s going to happen. And, you know, and, but when you step through it, it’s like, oh, this is awesome. You know, it’s just more aliveness, more playfulness, you know, more connectivity.

But it’s like, we just need, like you just described, just to step through, keep stepping through.

[Julie] (10:04 – 11:53)

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Now let’s get back to the show. So my daughter’s been involved in acting. She’s only 14, but she’s been taking classes for the last three years.

And I think it’s just so fascinating how you have to jump in and play this other person and really try on different voices and try on how different things work. And you kind of just have to go for it. What have you learned being around so many other creatives within your career about creativity yourself, creativity itself, and just some of the bigger moments and takeaways there?

[Josh Pais] (11:53 – 14:17)

Well, you mentioned creating a character, and this might go a little bit in the weeds. But in my classes, I developed something called inner atomics. And inner atomics, there’s about 26 inner atomics.

And these tools encompass all of human behavior. You can create any character. You can access any part of yourself with these inner atomics.

So in a sense, when I first started out, I would create a character so that I felt safe and I could hide behind, like, look at this. Look, look, look. The character’s here.

And that got me no work, but it felt really safe. And by playing with these inner atomics, I mean, I can give you examples of them, but you plug them into your being and then it opens up spontaneous, organic behavior. We want to find ways to get us to a place of spontaneity.

And that applies to anybody that’s creating anything. And spontaneity is the most, it’s the purest, most beautiful expression of someone when they are spontaneous. Because if you’re spontaneous, you’re not editing.

You’re not in your mind. You’re in your body. That’s what I, you know, I refer to lose your mind.

It’s like you want to step out of here. And then you have access to something that’s so far beyond the chatter. It’s like, and I think you’re, you know, you were touching on that before as well.

It’s just, there’s a richness, a depth that is so alive and so there to guide you. And one thing that I do in my classes, which I suspect is in alignment with you is I have people connect to where they are in that moment. And then I send them into, whether it’s for people that are public speaking or lawyers, practicing a closing argument or actors doing a scene, connect to exactly where you are and then speak from there.

And something comes out that is so far beyond what anybody thought to do.

[Julie] (14:18 – 14:24)

Define for us this term that you’ve coined creative invincibility. What does that mean to you?

[Josh Pais] (14:24 – 15:40)

To me, it means that no matter what you’re feeling, what emotion, whatever it is, and no matter what thoughts debilitating, crappy, I suck thoughts may be circulating, you’ll be able to do your best work. And, and, you know, the book teaches how to get there. And it’s just, there’s lots of exercises, their QR codes in the books to like audios and different meditations, but it’s, it’s trust.

It’s, it’s a deep trust that what’s going on is the perfect delivery system. It’s the perfect place to create from. And we, you know, that’s in the second chapter, I talk about the greatest myth of our time.

And from my point of view, the greatest myth of our time is that there’s this belief out there that’s so immersed that we don’t even question. And that belief is that there are good emotions and bad emotions. And it’s just, it’s just D it’s deeply ingrained just to go in the weeds again for a second.

My dad was a theoretical physicist.

[Julie] (15:40 – 15:46)

Yes. Talk to people about this because this is so cool. Didn’t he work with Albert Einstein?

[Josh Pais] (15:46 – 17:36)

Yeah. Albert Einstein, Oppenheimer, Niels Bohr, like all the, all the heavy dudes of that time. And when I had asked him as a kid, you know, what’s your job?

You know, he basically, there was a table next to me and he said, do you see this table? And I was like, yes, do you see your knee? I was like, yes, but what, what’s your job?

And he said, the smallest part of that table and the smallest part of your knee are the same things. And that’s what I explore, the building blocks of the universe. And I just remember, you know, him telling me that in this like Adam, because I, cause I’d heard him talking about Adams, but it was like, everything is these little tiny things and cut to me auditioning, starting to, you know, starting my attempting to start my acting career.

And it was horrendous. I was just wracked with nervousness and fear and anxiety and thoughts and, you know, what am I doing? And when I reflected on this, you know, this discussion I had with my dad, I started to play with that.

The emotions are just this, this is atoms. And so emotions are fluctuate their, their atoms are moving in a frequency that we can feel. But if we just stay with the purity of the vibration, you know, whether it’s frustration, you feel like a pounding behind your rib cage or anxiety, maybe like a chaotic energy in your belly.

But if you actually stay with that energetic pattern, it judgment drops.

[Julie] (17:37 – 17:46)

How does it drop though? Because a lot of people for a lot of people, they’re going to get into a ruminating thought pattern and then the thought pattern keeps them in.

[Josh Pais] (17:46 – 18:20)

Yeah. So, well, we can go over the four access points to presence, but let me put it on you for a second. So what, what is the loudest sensation in your body right now?

Feel like, what is the actual, not any story attached to it, but what, just take a moment, like what’s the most intense vibration. And it might not be intense. It might just be like, Oh, I feel this, you know, or this, or can I give you some backstory to it?

Don’t need it.

[Julie] (18:21 – 18:21)

Don’t need it.

[Josh Pais] (18:22 – 18:25)

Because we want to create from this moment.

[Julie] (18:25 – 18:26)

Oh, okay. Perfect.

[Josh Pais] (18:27 – 18:33)

Overwhelm. But okay, great. Now, where do you, is it more upper body or lower body?

[Julie] (18:34 – 18:35)

Always upper body.

[Josh Pais] (18:35 – 18:35)

Okay.

[Julie] (18:36 – 18:44)

Like chest, chest, like, um, like, like, like when people say you’ve got an elephant on your chest, that’s always where I carry anxiety.

[Josh Pais] (18:45 – 19:15)

Okay, great. Now. So is it overwhelm or anxiety in this moment?

Would you say overwhelmed, overwhelmed? Okay. So what is the energetic pattern that’s occurring?

Like, how are the atoms moving that you’re calling overwhelmed? Like, what’s the, what’s the actual movement in there? Um, like what are the atoms doing?

[Julie] (19:16 – 19:21)

It’s like more and more just keeps pouring in, but there’s not enough space for all of them.

[Josh Pais] (19:22 – 19:52)

Okay. So what moving inward or, or the filling up like a moving, moving in and filling up. Okay.

All right. So just take a moment and just feel the purity of an energy moving inward. And then also filling up, like just feel the, just be interested in that energetic pattern of filling in and, and filling up.

[Julie] (19:53 – 19:54)

Got it.

[Josh Pais] (19:55 – 21:42)

If you just feel the purity of that, like my question is like, is it that bad if you just, you know, right. But and that’s the key thing. But if you do are having that and you go, um, uh, what was the word you use overwhelmed?

And if you, and you, Oh, I’m overwhelmed. Then you’re gonna, and we’ve all talked, we know overwhelm is bad. Then you’re going to manage it, try to process.

I have to get over it. And then you’re going to be in your head going, I’m so overwhelmed. I’m overwhelmed about that.

I’m overwhelmed. Everything is overwhelming. However, the truth is that you felt like energy moving in and, and energy moving out or we stay with these patterns.

It it’s not good or bad. And that frees us up that gives us access to our creativity. But if we’re caught, we’re so culturally trained to keep monitoring ourselves away from what the myth has told us is bad, but that’s what screws everybody up.

Like living in a human body is living in something that’s constantly vibrating, like at its essence. That’s just the bottom line truth. It’s things are constantly moving.

And the more we can just party with it, like, Oh, it’s going to go over here now. Sometimes it’s going to be intense. And sometimes it might be almost like, you know, that moment, you know, in a roller coaster where it’s up at the top, but you can handle it.

And the more you can welcome all of this, then you become creatively invincible.

[Julie] (21:44 – 22:58)

Well, what’s striking me too, is that, um, and I had left earlier in our conversation, I thought to tell you, because we’ve both been around such creative and successful people in our lifetimes. And when you’re around people who are very, very highly successful, you notice them doing exactly what you’re saying within themselves, that they have to nail the moment. So whether it’s they’re going up on stage, and they’re talking in front of 10,000 people, or, you know, they’re acting, and they know millions of people are going to see it, or whatever it is that they’re doing, they have to be able to kind of come in and nail that moment.

And there is this way that they come to, I call that energy oneness of just you’re one with all that is it feels so yummy, delicious, you center into your soul’s energy. And it’s like, from that place, you can get this ultimate power. And by power, I mean, there’s a creative voice that is always speaking to us.

And in that moment, it’s going to show you the way. Yeah, I don’t know if you want to riff off of that.

[Josh Pais] (22:58 – 24:53)

I want to riff on nailing it. Because I’ll say for me, like I would do, you know, I would do a mostly like it would happen in theater. And I started out doing theater and Broadway and off Broadway.

And, and there were times where I would be like, I nailed that I nailed it. But let’s say in film, like I would be like, I just nailed that I hit it. Boom.

And sometimes the director would be like, let’s do it again. Let’s see what happens this time. And I had to rediscover that nailing it is exactly what you’ve been saying.

Nailing it isn’t something separate from you. It’s not some it’s something that hasn’t that doesn’t exist yet. And it’s like stepping into the unknown, and like offering your full being at even while all this stuff is happening, I’m not going to go away and I’m going to create with it.

Yeah, as opposed to an old school, particularly with acting approach was always like, I’m going to set my rhythm, and I’m going to do it with bravura, bravura, and knock it out of the park. And for, I don’t know, maybe 20, 25, 30 years ago, that was, oh, that’s good acting. But you know, like I did Joker with Joaquin Phoenix, and I find it just a really compelling actor.

And every take that we did, he was different, because he honored where he was, and I was different. And then it just brought us into this unknown place where the dance could happen in that moment. And again, takes bravery to step into that.

But it’s again, crossing through this thinnest of membranes.

[Julie] (24:53 – 25:21)

Yeah, is that something that also comes from a muscle, you know, because we’re all as we journey through life, kind of building up our expertise, building up those muscles in the areas that we’re serving and creating and just being with the world. And my daughter’s so cute. So she’s just, you know, theater kids are just a group that are unlike any other.

They’re just so good to one another. They’re such a community.

[Josh Pais] (25:22 – 25:22)

Yeah.

[Julie] (25:22 – 26:32)

So they all came over to our house, we, you know, got pizzas and just everything. And I couldn’t be there. And I was just crushed because I had to work a retreat that I was hosting.

But I was like, take video, take picture, I want to know everything. So they sat around, they did charades. And, you know, they they’ll sit around, they’ll just try on different voices.

They do this thing where they try and sound like a 70 year old smoker, you know, with this raspy voice. And they, I can’t even intimidate, like, do that impression. But it just kind of made me think when you were talking, oh, like, are we each in our lives kind of journeying in the way that we want to become experts.

And as we’re doing even these minute little things with our friends, having conversations with the friends that we walk with, we’re kind of building up this muscle within us, so that when you’re in the moment, you have the expertise and the muscle behind you to just bring through what needs to come through.

[Josh Pais] (26:32 – 27:08)

Absolutely. Yeah, I had an acting teacher, his name was Clyde Vincent. And he was talking, he would talk about like, as you’re washing the don’t make it a big transition from like washing your dishes to going on stage.

Like, don’t, like, don’t make that a heightened, don’t make that a heightened state, like just bring you as you are into that. And, I mean, I have a extra exercise, you know, which is the four access points, I’d be happy to hear them.

[Julie] (27:08 – 27:09)

Yes.

[Josh Pais] (27:09 – 27:57)

And these build the muscle of staying present with exactly as you are. And I’m sure I know there’s people listening that might think but that’s not enough, you know, but it’s biggest, it’s enormous when you offer you and that’s what people are debt. They’re so hungry in this era for, for you to see you as you are in this moment, it’s life affirming, even if you feel vulnerable, even if you feel nervous, if you if you let yourself feel that as you’re doing whatever form of creation you’re doing, people will will bow down to you because it’s real.

[Julie] (27:57 – 28:42)

Elizabeth Gilbert, she wrote Eat, Pray, Love. She’s got a new book out. I just went to go see her.

Yeah, she came to talk in Naperville. And she talked about being a writer and really not wanting to harm the people in your life, because we go through things, right. And part of being a podcaster and sharing your life, or sharing what spirits bringing through at the time, often comes from a point of, okay, you know, I went through this in my life, it caused me this pain.

This is how I worked through it, how I got to the other side of it. And what she’s talked about is not talking about something until it doesn’t trigger you anymore. And I wonder how you feel about that.

[Josh Pais] (28:42 – 28:47)

So just on tracking, don’t talk about something until it doesn’t trigger you anymore.

[Julie] (28:47 – 29:21)

Yes, until you’re on the other side of it, which I find sometimes really hard to do, because the messages then, sometimes the messages from spirit don’t come all at once, you know, it’s evolving through the lesson to be on the other side of it. How do you take this? You know, do you wait until you’re healed from it to talk about it?

Or do you allow people in to the vulnerable side of, you know, I’m showing up for you, but this is where I’m at today.

[Josh Pais] (29:21 – 29:35)

I mean, I the latter. Yeah, because I mean, the notion of, you know, I don’t know quite exactly everything she was referencing. So I’m not talking about authors.

[Julie] (29:35 – 29:42)

Yeah, because it’s different for authors who are putting out big books than maybe podcasters who are talking weekly, right.

[Josh Pais] (29:42 – 31:57)

But the notion of being triggered is tied up in with the great myth. Because basically, don’t trigger me is like, I don’t want to feel I don’t want to feel something bad. Don’t make me feel something bad.

But if we can welcome all of these sensations, like anxiety, like, you know, that’s something that, you know, we’re so like, Oh, I want to feel anxiety. But just as you tapped into overwhelm, like the actual thing is just this vibrational frequency. And my power comes from like, yeah, I’m feeling all that, but I’m not going to go up here and what if I don’t suppress it and ride it, it’s going to shift in seven to 12 seconds.

Any sensation that we fully honor will shift in seven to 12 seconds to the next sensation, the next sensation, the next sensation. And that’s really, I think how our body wants to be honored to create optimal health, so that you’re not managing your the management is from your mind’s point of view, from your body’s point of view, you’re fully in control. It’s only your mind goes like that.

I’m out of control. I’m, I’m triggered, but we have to do this practice. I firmly believe it’s so needed in the world now.

Because if everybody’s like, don’t make me feel something that starts wars, that starts separation from from people that’s it just it’s closing our heart constantly going in protected, suppressed living in our head. And we’ve been living in our head too long. And the results are in front of us.

And we’ve got to come we’ve got to understand that living in a human body is going we’re going to vibrate. And if we take it out of good and bad, then you’re then you can fully engage.

[Julie] (31:58 – 31:59)

What’s the role of love in there?

[Josh Pais] (31:59 – 33:10)

I just think it’s going to expand your ability to feel love. And also, you know, I think there’s something with love that even that’s worthy of experimenting with, because, like, how much love will you let yourself feel before? It’s too much, I have to protect myself.

And I think the more we can be open, yeah, if you’re really open, somebody might say something, and it’s going to land, but you can deal with that. And on the flip side, we have a tool within our being that we can shut down there. And that can that should be used as a tool.

Like if if you’re dealing with something, it’s like, um, yeah, I’m gonna like, I’m gonna be in in this space here. But what we don’t want is for that to become a lifestyle. You want it to be a tool.

It’s like, you know, but not every day, I’m going to only allow this much, you know, I’m gonna allow this much aliveness and the rest, I’m going to make sure, you know, I don’t get I don’t feel something.

[Julie] (33:10 – 33:26)

Oh, you know, when you just said that, that is so incredibly powerful. I don’t even know if you realize how powerful that is. How much love do you let yourself feel before you try to protect yourself?

Yeah, wow.

[Josh Pais] (33:27 – 35:01)

Yeah. And it’s the same with any of these sensations. You know, and this, you know, that’s what the book, you know, teaches is that you it’s all you can withstand it all you can, you can be so alive.

And yeah, it’s and that might mean you’re going to be sad. But if you even if you’re getting to the purity of sadness, and don’t hold it as bad. Like there’s a beauty, there’s a richness, there’s a poetry in in sadness.

And I know for me, that was something that I would always be like, something’s wrong. I’m sad. I’ve got a you know, and and but if if I go, wait a minute, what do I teach?

And it’s like, just feel it. And then time slows down. It’s just like, very, very rich and beautiful.

And, you know, we just have to, we have to know, we’re living in a human body, and we have to welcome it. If we want to have access to our creativity, and the planet needs everyone’s creativity right now, we really want that. Yeah.

I mean, all the answer all the problems in the world are, they’re ready to be solved. But if we’re constantly suppressing and altering and getting caught in this ridiculous game, then we’re limiting access to our creativity.

[Julie] (35:02 – 36:14)

Yeah, I see that all the time with the angels, they always say that if each soul was on earth doing what their soul was called here to do, this place would be a completely different experience. And that’s exactly what you just said. You know, your soul has so much creativity.

Sometimes I get stuck in, you know, okay, well, then here’s this new idea spirit just brought in. So this is what I’m going to do for the rest of my life. And I used to think it was bad or wrong, that even when you’re highly successful, you have all this success, right?

There’s still going to be this chapter where one chapter ends, another chapter begins of creativity, where you have to go birth in something new. And I think that I’ve really been resisting that over the last couple of years of feeling like there’s this new layer, this new creative piece that they want me to bring in. And not knowing exactly how to do that.

And it’s taken me a while to step into it. But I see it now. And it’s so beautiful.

And it doesn’t mean that I have to get rid of the podcast. I’m not keep the podcast, but just take it to a whole new level, which I’m excited to do.

[Josh Pais] (36:15 – 38:13)

There’s a chapter in the book called a malleable identity. Ooh, what’s that? And well, we just naturally create an identity based on our childhood, based on who we think is cool, who we’re not going to be like.

I’m not going to be like my dad or I’m not going to be like whoever. And so we start to mold this structure and we go like, yeah, this is… And it’s almost like a bat sending sonar out inside the perimeter of our identity.

And we’re like, oh yeah, that’s me. Yeah, this is me. Okay.

Yeah. I’m good. I’m good.

This is me. I think what you’re talking about is letting your identity become malleable, which takes bravery, but it’s like, then you expand into a whole other arena in which to live and play and create. And just know it’s bumpy because there’s a, you know, mostly our mind wants this secure, our grandmother, you know, wants this secure, you know, space in which to operate.

But magic happens when we let our identity be malleable so that we can, maybe how you would phrase it, like let the angels guide us. Because if we get messages from intuition, from wherever it may be, and we’re locked in here, we’re going to be like, no, it’s not, that’s not what I do. You know, and we’re going to miss these transitions.

And these, you know, when these transitions come upon us, it can be really disturbing to our mind because I know who I’m this, you know, and it’s like, but I’m getting this nudge over here. And so that’s, again, why we need to lose our mind, because it’s not going to help us grow. It’s not going to help us expand.

[Julie] (38:13 – 38:35)

I think if you looked at any successful person in life, in any arena of life, what made them successful, end of sentence, point blank, is them following their intuition, their creativity, because nobody else could have done that. And to your point before, that is what people are craving. You’re so right about that.

[Josh Pais] (38:35 – 38:47)

You know, you mentioned fear. I mean, what, what is fear? What is it?

Really? But like it for you, like if you feel fear, what, what are you actually feeling? Can you?

[Julie] (38:48 – 38:49)

Oh, the atoms?

[Josh Pais] (38:49 – 38:53)

Like what are the atom? What is the, what is the actual for me?

[Julie] (38:54 – 38:57)

It’s an absence energy. I don’t feel, I don’t feel the atoms.

[Josh Pais] (38:58 – 39:02)

You don’t feel the atoms and that, and you, and that’s, and that’s fear.

[Julie] (39:03 – 39:03)

Yes.

[Josh Pais] (39:04 – 39:04)

Okay.

[Julie] (39:04 – 39:04)

Yeah.

[Josh Pais] (39:04 – 39:07)

Do you feel any fear right now? Like something you might call fear?

[Julie] (39:08 – 39:10)

I could take myself to that state if you wanted me to.

[Josh Pais] (39:10 – 39:54)

If you literally go back and to feel, maybe it’s an emptiness or like there’s nothing to hold onto. I don’t, you know, there’s just nothing there. You know, if you practice, like when that happens, like I can kind of feel that now and just breathe and connect to that.

Like, then you’re not going to, then you’re not going to, you know, saying this to everybody, you’re not going to get screwed up when you feel it. You’re not going to manage it and like turn it into anything else. It’s just like, Oh, there’s this emptiness.

And the, and my image when I was, you know, imagining or remembering when I felt fear, it’s more like spikes going out. Like almost like that.

[Julie] (39:54 – 40:00)

I want to know, cause we’ve talked about this, but we didn’t get to it. What are the four access points?

[Josh Pais] (40:00 – 41:59)

All right, here we go. So there’s no order to them, but why don’t we, since we’ve been playing with the body, why don’t we start there? And these are tools to shift the volume.

So we’re not dominated by this tune into, like, you can begin by what is the loudest sensation in your body? Do you feel your feet on the floor? Do you feel parts of your body feel expanded parts of your body feel contracted?

What’s moving? What emotion is there just purely connecting to the body as we’ve been experimenting with? So that’s one.

Another one is to breathe, to feel like you want to breathe, to feel so often we’ll use like a breathing technique to get rid of our body to get, I don’t want to feel nervous. So I’m going to, you know, you know, or I’m going to try to get rid of it. It makes sense if you hold nervous as bad, but then you’re going to end up in your head because you’re just trying to suppress your body.

So you want to breathe to feel, and this might feel counterintuitive, but breathe so that you can feel more. The more we’re in here, the quieter this is, and this being our head. So breathe to feel.

The next is to take in your immediate environment. And, and a specific way of doing that is, so if you’re listening, put your eyes on whatever something in front of you and see it in terms of color, the color of it, the shape of it, the texture, I’m looking at my microphone, the texture, the lightness, the darkness, the shadow. So in a sense, see it as if for the first time, see it how a baby or what’s your dog’s name?

[Julie] (42:00 – 42:00)

Lulu.

[Josh Pais] (42:00 – 43:54)

And, and, and almost like how Lulu would see it. Um, cause presumably, maybe not, but Lulu is not going to go look at that and go microphone. But she, yeah, yeah.

She’s going to see it as it is. So just try that for a moment. Like see something, the shape, the color, the texture, the lightness and the darkness.

And this tends to settle the nervous system because the less we take in of what’s around us, the more the nervous system is like, well, what, what is it? What what’s, you know, grandma’s like, what, what’s there, what’s there. So literally tuning into seeing it actually as it is.

So that, so we have body breath to feel connect to immediate environment. And then the final one is that periodically, no matter what you’re doing, because we have this mechanism, our mind is going to take us, it’s going to grab us. And like, it’s going to give us like something to grab onto, like some mental drama.

They screwed me over and why didn’t I do? And I should have said, you know, and, and we’re gone. And then there’s a moment where you realize that you were gone and then you say, I’m back.

So as soon as your mind has just caught you, you say, I’m back. And then feel your body, take a breath, connect to your immediate environment. And just to be clear, there’s no order of these, all four of them are, will pull you back because we want to stay in this moment.

We don’t want to go through our life missing enormous swaths of life because we’re listening to how bad we are. These four access points open the creative channel.

[Julie] (43:54 – 43:56)

Oh, beautiful.

[Josh Pais] (43:56 – 44:24)

And I mean, I remember my dad telling me that so many famous scientists would, they would go for a walk. And like a lot of them would go for a walk in the morning. And so, and then sometimes, you know, he would tell me the story of a very famous scientist, literally stepping on the bus and was just engaged in that moment.

And this theorem, this enormous theorem that he had been working on, like dropped in.

[Julie] (44:25 – 44:25)

Wow.

[Josh Pais] (44:26 – 45:16)

We need to trust in that space. And I think it’s very much in alignment, you know, with everything that you do and talk about. It’s like, that’s, it’s stepping into the unknown.

And I’ll tell you, when I’m about to shoot a scene in a movie, and they’re setting up the, you know, the light, you know, coming from his crap on my face, whatever. And right before, if I catch that I’m in my mind, I say to myself, I don’t know what is going to happen. And that’s okay.

And because the more we can step into the unknown, which is we need to train our nervous system, you know, to know that’s okay. But that opens up just our creativity, you know, and…

[Julie] (45:16 – 45:20)

What did you just say there? You can step into the unknown? What did you tell yourself in that moment?

[Josh Pais] (45:21 – 46:19)

I don’t know what’s going to happen. And I think, you know, from childhood, from grammar school, you know, it’s ingrained in us that the teacher, you know, you know, is, Julie, Julie, what in, in 1607, what happened? What was the, you know, what happened in that year, Julie?

And it’s the worst possible thing is, I don’t know, you know, it’s just like, you know, you’ll get the teacher will be disappointed, you know, it’s just horrendous, you know. And but, you know, so I think that’s part of I know, for me, like how it got ingrained that like, to not know was so bad. But it’s a magical place of I don’t know, I don’t know what’s going to happen.

I don’t know the answer. And then you, you kind of enter into a magical kingdom, I think.

[Julie] (46:19 – 46:24)

It’s where the angel of mystery is, and there is an angel of mystery.

[Josh Pais] (46:24 – 47:07)

Absolutely. 100%. And look, the truth is, we don’t know, we don’t know what’s going to happen in five minutes.

Like that’s the reality of where we’re living. You know, but our mind is, you know, doesn’t let us hang out with that. Because it’s like it wants to create structure, security and sameness.

And it wants to keep us devoid of experience. It wants to keep us but we’ve got to come back in and, and it’s also not about, from my point of view, it’s not about talking about, you know, oh, I’m feeling you know, it’s just like, they’re just charges to riff with.

[Julie] (47:08 – 47:43)

Yeah, yeah. And let yourself run with things. Okay, I have to ask, I have to ask this question.

And then I want you to share every with everybody where they can find you where they can find your book. But you have to have thought about this with your dad doing the work that he did and the people that he worked with. Will we find the God particle?

Will we you know, will science bring us together more with the divine and all that is and spirituality? Do you think that that merge if it will happen will happen in our lifetimes?

[Josh Pais] (47:44 – 49:06)

I mean, I had that discussion with him many times. And that’s a that’s an unknown right now. But I remember one thing he said was, there were a couple of things like one, he was like, he said, we, we know that we have five fingers, and we can trace through evolution.

How, you know, how we got to five fingers, but we have no idea why it’s five fingers. Do you know what I mean? And we can under so we can understand certain things, but then there’s a there’s a whole other realm of but we don’t know, you know, we don’t know, you know, we know, we, we can understand certain things, but but we don’t know what why they are quite that way.

And, and he, that lit him up, you know, that we, you know, that we’re that it was also like a sense of frustration, because he’d want to know. Yeah, but it’s, you know, that’s, that’s a, you know, that’s a fantastic question. And I don’t have an answer to but we’ll certainly see.

[Julie] (49:07 – 49:07)

Yeah. No.

[Josh Pais] (49:08 – 49:14)

And, you know, I think just even pondering that is fun.

[Julie] (49:15 – 49:24)

Josh, you are such a joy to spend time with. Where can everybody find your new book, Lose Your Mind? And where can they find you?

[Josh Pais] (49:24 – 49:43)

September 30. It’ll be everywhere. You know, obviously, Amazon, Barnes and Noble, all the book websites, go to your local bookstore, they should have it, it should be everywhere that books are available.

I have a website committed impulse.com.

[Julie] (49:44 – 53:01)

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Because this is the best way to manifest. So let’s begin. God, universe, source, thank you.

We’re so grateful that you’ve blessed this world with calm and peace for all. This calm and peace has spread like ripples, soothing the hearts of every soul. Thank you for opening our hearts to abundance, allowing each of us to live our most authentic life and helping us to create our own heaven on earth.

We thank you for the love and deep heart to heart connection that surrounds us every day in our relationships. We thank you for the abundance of health and aliveness we feel radiating from every cell in our and our family’s bodies. Thank you for the gift of walking this life with us and guiding us every step of the way through your messages.

We hear you through our own intuition and we feel you walking right by our sides and we overflow with gratitude. Thank you for financial abundance and abundance of opportunities and miracles and blessings and prosperity in every way. We know that you want us to succeed so that we can show others how you want them to succeed too.

Thank you for the boundless love, kindness, empathy, and compassion that binds us all together. Thank you for the laughter, fun moments of pure delight that fill us every day, especially today. God, universe, source, thank you for blessing us beyond measure and allowing us to use our souls, gifts, talents, skills, and abilities to serve the world.

We love you. I love you. And in this we pray.

Amen. Friends, we’re working on some pretty major things over here. And if you wouldn’t mind saying a little prayer that these things come to fruition, if they’re God’s will, we’d so appreciate it.

And please add a little prayer in for any specific thing you need right now to have a beautiful blessed day.