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“Survivor Sarah Corbett Lynch joins me to share her harrowing journey of loss, manipulation, and divine resilience. In this raw interview, she reveals how angels guided her through her father’s murder, covert abuse by her stepmother, and reclaiming her truth. Learn how she healed through spiritual signs (white butterflies!), forgave her 8-year-old self, and wrote ‘A Time for Truth’ to empower others. If you’ve ever felt ‘stuck’ in trauma or doubted your intuition, this episode is your angelic roadmap to courage. #SpiritualHealing #DivineGuidance”

TIMESTAMPED OVERVIEW

00:00 Introduction & Angelic Guidance Invitation
02:38 Sarah’s Early Loss & Family Dynamics
04:09 Moving to America: A New Beginning
05:47 Molly’s Manipulation & Abuse Patterns
08:33 Escalating Tension: Red Flags in the Home
12:53 The Night of Jason’s Murder
15:50 Aftermath: Police Intervention & Trauma
19:44 Healing Journey: Therapy & Irish Guardianship
24:32 Spiritual Signs from Departed Loved Ones
27:00 Forgiveness & Self-Compassion Insights
31:20 Angelic Messages for Sarah’s Purpose
34:06 Closing: Book Promotion & Angel Resources

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https://www.amazon.com/Books-Sarah-Corbett/s?rh=n%3A283155%2Cp_27%3ASarah%2BCorbett

TRANSCRIPT:

Julie and Sarah 713

[00:00:00] Julie: Hello, beautiful souls. Welcome to Angels and Awakening. I’m Julie Janis, and I wanna start by reminding you that your angels are with you right now. Whether you’ve been asking for their guidance, healing, or hope they’ve brought you here for a reason, this is a sacred space where you tune into their messages, reconnect with your own intuition, and awaken the next chapter of your soul’s purpose.

[00:00:28] And if you’re feeling called to go deeper right now, whether that’s through our [00:00:32] upcoming in-person Angel Reiki school in June, the 21 Day Money Miracles Challenge in May, or a personal reading with me, just know your angels are already preparing the way. I’ll show you more about these beautiful opportunities later and in the show notes.

[00:00:49] But for now, open your heart. Ask your angels to be with you and let’s begin. Hello, beautiful souls. Welcome back to the Angels and Awakening Podcast. I’m your host and author, Julie Janis. Friends, I have to say, I [00:01:04] am so sorry. I’ve been on here with Sarah Corbett Lynch and she is just an earth angel. Um, you are just gonna love her and adore her, and you’re just gonna wanna go back up to her and give her a huge hug.

[00:01:18] Thank you. Everybody who listens to this P podcast, Sarah, they’re so empathic and I just, I know that they’re gonna hear your story today and just wanna reach out to you. Sarah has a book that I really, really am gonna ask you to support. It’s called A Time for Truth and Friends. You know how much I love a [00:01:36] good library in your house.

[00:01:37] That you can pass good books on to friend after friend and allow them to read ’em. This is a book that you have to have in your library. Again, it’s called a Time for Truth, but Sarah’s story today is one of the most powerful. Stories I’ve ever heard. The way that she has moved through such hardship in her life and so many challenges and heartbreak and turned them into love and service and just helping others in [00:02:08] this lifetime is just the biggest gift for us all to hear today.

[00:02:11] So Sarah. You have a story that I’m gonna let you share. You lost your mom at a very early age, and your dad looked for somebody to come help. Because you and your brother were just so young and, and he needed that help and that support. Tell us a little bit about that. And your dad just sounds like the best.

[00:02:38] He sounds like, just [00:02:40] like the most loving, joyful, fun, loyal, caring dad.

[00:02:46] Sarah: Yeah. He really was. After, um, my mom passed away, he tried to. You know, he was working full time, so he, he wanted to do it himself and my family tried to do as much as they could, but my dad is very independent and, um, wanted to be able to, his family to function.

[00:03:03] So, um, he got an au pair and after a few different au pairs, there was always either a language barrier or they were only here for the summer. [00:03:12] So my dad was looking for someone more long term. Um, and he came across this woman, Molly Martins, on a website, um, who had an amazing CV and she was from America, so there’d be no English barrier and she was looking for a long-term job.

[00:03:25] Um, so my dad hired her and she moved over and aft pretty quickly. They formed a relationship and a few years later they got married. Molly started to say that she was very homesick and wanted to go home, so my dad decided that he would. Change his, move, [00:03:44] his job. ’cause he was able to transfer from one plant to a different one to North Carolina and got us into schools.

[00:03:51] And, you know, he was, he was really active in wanting to make us a part of the community. So he became the soccer coach and the baseball coach and, you know, wanted us to be involved in things and not be nervous to make friends. So he was right in there, like becoming friends with all the dads and getting to know everyone in the community and.

[00:04:08] You know, going to the cornhole like competitions and stuff like that. Um, so we moved over and, you know, my [00:04:16] dad was in love with Molly and she was kind of the only mother figure that I had known and my brother as well, what seemed like a new opportunity for our family. And, you know, a bright future turned into something absolutely awful and probably one of the worst things that’s ever happened to me or my brother, but.

[00:04:35] At the beginning. I remember when we first moved there, it was everything was like bright and shiny. You know, everything in America is so much bigger than it is in Ireland, so the cars, the roads, the houses, it just seems like a new [00:04:48] beginning. And you know, I, I remember us walking in the house for the first time.

[00:04:52] And my dad showing me my room. And I remember running around being like, oh my God, this is so big. And he was telling me how I can get a real princess bed because he always called me his little princess because Sarah means princess and Hebrew. So it was always like a little thing that he would always call me his princess.

[00:05:07] And I remember Molly and my dad walking hand in hand pointing out where they were gonna put the sofa and when they, where they were gonna put like the cutlery and all the different things, you know. So it was really exciting at the beginning.

[00:05:18] Julie: But Molly’s behavior [00:05:20] wasn’t always healthy and there were signs of that.

[00:05:23] One sign too is just her need for the entire family, maybe even to move to the states just for her. But shoplifting and there were signs. But as a, as a kid, you don’t know any different.

[00:05:37] Sarah: No. As a kid, I always felt like there was something wrong. Yeah. You know, I am intuitive enough to like, yes. Understand when some something’s not right.

[00:05:47] You know? Yeah, we didn’t watch a lot of tv. We were a very active family. We were always out doing things, going for [00:05:52] walks and stuff, and I wasn’t at the age where I’d spend a lot of time in my friend’s houses, so I knew no different. But what. Mother teaches their daughter that it’s okay to shoplift and that it’s okay to get sick so that you can stay skinny for swimming when you’re six years old.

[00:06:10] Julie: Wow. You know?

[00:06:11] Sarah: And you don’t tell your daughter that your dad killed your birth mom, which is absolutely untrue. Yeah. And Molly was very manipulative, use co control a lot. You know, she told me [00:06:24] that it was. That my dad was a bad man, and she would hide his keys and make it seem like it was a fun game for us.

[00:06:31] But then my dad would be late for work.

[00:06:33] Julie: Oh, wow.

[00:06:34] Sarah: You know? And she was very physically abusive to my brother and very mentally abusive with me. Mm-hmm. And it was almost like Molly got in all of our heads really quickly. And because me and Jack were so young, and it was like she was trying to isolate each other, isolate us from each other, and.

[00:06:53] Eventually it did start to work. You know, there [00:06:56] was, there was never an argument, but Molly had us in her pocket. It was like we were a piece on her chessboard and she was able to play us.

[00:07:04] Julie: So you are there for how many years before or, or how long before?

[00:07:09] Sarah: We are there for about four and a half years I think.

[00:07:12] Okay. We moved over when I was about four and we moved back. Me and Jack moved back a month before I turned nine.

[00:07:21] Julie: So you are there in the Carolinas and she has the [00:07:28] increasing erratic behavior where she’s. Maybe they’re fighting a little bit, he wants to maybe move back to Ireland and it seems like she’s kind of spinning out more.

[00:07:41] That is a thing with mental illness and and stress where it can kind of exasperate the mental illness as well. And tell us a little bit about kind of like the events leading up to your dad’s passing. You’re right, Molly

[00:07:57] Sarah: was. Being very erratic. I [00:08:00] had this picture frame my dad got me that had little princess on it, and it was a picture of him and my birth mom on their wedding day, and I knew not to leave it out in front of Molly because it made her upset.

[00:08:11] You know, she made it very clear to me and Jack that she did not like talking about my birth mom, even though my dad always celebrated her anniversaries and her birthdays and wanted us to know her as a person, but I mistakenly left it out. And Molly came into my room and she ran over to the photograph and picked it up and started [00:08:32] saying, this is not your mother.

[00:08:33] I’m your mother. This woman is dead.

[00:08:35] Julie: Mm-hmm.

[00:08:35] Sarah: And she took the frame and threw it down the stairs, and the frame shattered, or the frame cracked and the glass shattered. And then she just stared at me and walked down the stairs calmly and walked across the shards of glass like nothing had happened. And I went down immediately to clean it up.

[00:08:54] But my dad came home as I was doing it and I made up some lie saying that I tripped, I fell, I dropped it down the stairs. I’m so sorry. [00:09:04] And my dad helped me clean it up. He glued it back together, put a new, got a new glass for it a few days later, and I still have that photo today. Do you know, with the two cracked frames on the side, that wasn’t really the only thing Molly was getting increasingly.

[00:09:19] Argumentative with my dad. They were having an argument one night, and I don’t know what it was about, but I was in bed, it was nighttime. And uh, Molly came up the stairs and she came into my room, jumped on my bed, and started squeezing my arm really hard [00:09:36] to the point where it was painful. And she started saying, he’s gonna kill me.

[00:09:39] Like he killed his first wife. He’s gonna kill me. Like he killed his first wife. And what she didn’t realize was that my dad had come up the stairs and. Had heard what she said and I remember seeing his entire heart shatter. Yeah. Uh, I could see his eyes reding and the tears swelling up because I think it was the first time that he realized what was actually going on in our home.

[00:10:05] Mm-hmm. Because I wasn’t [00:10:08] shocked that she had said that because she had said it to me before. I never believed it, but she had said it so many times to me. The only reason I was upset was because she was squeezing my arm. Hmm. And I think that’s what, when my dad realized that this is not a good place for my kids to be.

[00:10:23] Yeah. And the next day I woke up ’cause Molly had slept in my room and my dad had asked her, please Molly, can we just go downstairs, let Sarah go to sleep? You know, we’ll talk about this in the morning. Just leave Sarah’s room and let her go to sleep. Um, but the next morning I woke up and Molly [00:10:40] was gone, her car was gone, and I went downstairs and I remember being so angry at both of them.

[00:10:47] Because they had brought me into it and I was never able, I was never allowed to be mad at Molly. She never allowed it. It was, wow. It was never a question. If Molly and my dad were arguing, I always shouted at my dad to stop, even though my dad never, ever started or instigated any arguments. And I remember going down the stairs and I was going in to feed our dog, and my dad came up from the basement and I [00:11:12] saw his face and.

[00:11:13] I could see the tear lines beside his eyes and I could see that he had must have been crying all night. ’cause his eyes were bloodshot and he just looked completely defeated. Mm. And he came up the stairs and he looked at me and he said, Sarah, and I remember I just ran into his arms and gave him a big hug.

[00:11:34] And he just kept saying, I’m so sorry. I’m so sorry about everything. And he was saying that, you know, I’d never hurt Molly. I’d never hurt your mom. I love you guys all [00:11:44] so much. And he just kept saying that he was so sorry and I just, I believed him 100%. Yeah, there was no question about it. Yeah. You know, I, I know my dad, my dad was the type of person that got like a cup and a piece of paper to get rid of spiders at our back garden.

[00:11:57] Julie: Yeah. You know,

[00:11:57] Sarah: my dad was one of the most, he was a complete gentle giant. Mm-hmm. But there was a lot of things that were leading up to it that just, there was so much tension. It was like we were all walking on edge eggshells. You couldn’t. Argue there was just, it was just tension filled.

[00:12:15] Julie: Yeah. [00:12:16] The next day has her parents come in unexpectedly from out of town and after a day of kind of mingling with the neighbors and you guys playing with the neighbors, gives you pills, which she never does, but gives you pills, drugs you to go to sleep.

[00:12:37] It doesn’t take, and you go downstairs. Wobbly. She gives you another pill to put you to bed. And she, [00:12:48] I don’t even know how to say this. She kills your dad. Yeah.

[00:12:53] Sarah: Yeah. Um, yeah. Uh, I, the third time that I woke up, I was woken up by a police officer, corporal Clay Dhar. And at first I was, I was really confused because I thought it was Tom because I was still really hazy and I, I didn’t know what was going on.

[00:13:15] And I, I remember when I realized it was a police officer that [00:13:20] I remember seeing his badge and then seeing his face because there was lights from police CARSs coming through my window. And that’s how I could see his face. And he, he told me he was, he was really, really gentle. And this is one of the reasons that I think.

[00:13:34] It is really important to know the whole story. But yeah, this is one of the moments where I really did have hope and there was, I was really lucky that Clay DGen Hart was working that night. Yeah. Uh, ’cause he wasn’t meant to be working. Wow. He was meant, he was meant to be off that night, but he worked overtime and he [00:13:52] had a baby at home named Sarah.

[00:13:54] Wow. And he said to me, he said, I need to, he introduced himself. He said he was a police officer, and he said that he needed to take me downstairs. And I had two options that I could either walk down the stairs backwards with my eyes closed, or he could carry me downstairs and my eyes closed. But I had to promise to keep my eyes closed.

[00:14:13] Mm. And because I felt so, like I was on a rocking ship, I asked to be carried down the stairs, and I remember he held my hand walking out of my [00:14:24] room. And I met Jack, my brother, who was 10 at the time, and he was with another police officer. And, uh, the police officer picked me up and he held my head in the nape of his neck and he covered my eyes with his hand just in case.

[00:14:40] And I’m really lucky that he did because the scenes of what I would’ve saw, I could never unsee. And I remember we were walking down the stairs and when we were on the landing upstairs, it was. Extremely busy. It was like [00:14:56] there was hundreds of people inside the house. There was the boots from the police officers, there was a fuzz from the walkie talkies and people were talking downstairs and you could tell there was a lot of lot of things going on.

[00:15:09] But as we got to the middle of the stairs, it was like everyone disappeared or faded away. It was just complete silence. And all I could hear was the boots from the two police officers. And because I knew the house so well, you know, we got to the, um. Stairs for the basement. And it was like everyone had just come back in.

[00:15:27] [00:15:28] Mm-hmm. And it just, everything picked up again. And he brought us down to Molly’s mom, Sharon, who was in bed just reading her book with a nightlight. Completely calm. And that’s, I think why I was so, I, I never thought that my dad could have been dead. Yeah. I remember thinking, and that continued on for a really long time.

[00:15:50] I remember thinking, oh, maybe somebody broke in. And Tom, Molly and my dad were giving statements or talking to the police about it. Sure. But when me and [00:16:00] Jack asked, Jack asked, where’s my mom and dad? Sharon said, I don’t know. The police officers wait, said, wait here. So we waited here. So we never, I never thought that my dad was dead.

[00:16:13] Julie: Did they know though?

[00:16:15] Sarah: Did Sharon know? I don’t know. Yeah, I don’t know. Did she know? But the three dogs, my dog slept upstairs in his kennel, but he was in the room as well. She had two dogs. So it was me, Sharon, three dogs and my brother in this room.

[00:16:27] Julie: Wow.

[00:16:27] Sarah: And I remember I kept kind of falling asleep and waking up and I was [00:16:32] just staring out at the window, which faced our back garden.

[00:16:34] And we had these beautiful forests behind our garden, big trees. And all you could see was the lights from the police cars and the ambulance and a woman, police officer, uh, came into our, came into the room and said she was gonna take me and Jack to see Molly. Um, and she walked us over and I re, I remember asking, why is there an ambulance here?

[00:16:59] And she said Someone got hurt, but it’s fine.

[00:17:02] Julie: Oh.

[00:17:03] Sarah: [00:17:04] So again, I, I thought maybe somebody broke their leg or, you know, got injured. I never thought that, you know, every little girl thinks her dad is a hero. He’s invincible. Yeah. You know, and I definitely did. You know, my dad was a hundred percent my hero. Yeah, he was, he was home for me and Jack.

[00:17:24] Julie: Yeah,

[00:17:25] Sarah: we were brought over to Molly, who was extremely erratic and rocking back and forth and rubbing her neck and she had this, this brown smear all over her face. [00:17:36] And I’m another time that I’m really lucky for my innocence because we later found out that was my dad’s blood.

[00:17:42] Julie: Oh, how do you, as a human being.

[00:17:48] Even start to process, let alone move through this.

[00:17:57] Sarah: It took a really long time. I was so young, so a lot of what was going on didn’t make sense to me. You know, I, I was eight when my dad was killed, [00:18:08] and the last hearing was in 2023.

[00:18:11] Julie: Wow.

[00:18:12] Sarah: So I’ve been under the judicial system since I was for more than half of my life.

[00:18:16] So I think it kind of came in snippets and I’ve been in therapy since I was eight years old. Yeah. Uh, talk therapy has been amazing. I have a wonderful therapist, Mary. She’s just, she knows me inside out and she knows when I’m trying to keep something. She’s like, just, just tell me out with it. Just out with it.

[00:18:35] Yeah. Yeah. And I also have an amazing family. I was extremely lucky that. [00:18:40] When we moved back to Ireland that Tracy and David never said anything negative about the Martins ever. Wow. They never tried to change what we thought about them. They let us speak openly about that. We loved Molly, that we thought Molly was like a mom to us.

[00:18:55] We were able to speak openly about it and make our own decisions. Yeah. You know, and not, not that must have been extremely hard. I don’t know how they did it. Not a lot of people would do that.

[00:19:05] Julie: Mm-hmm.

[00:19:06] Sarah: And it gave us the chance to. Decide how we felt about what happened [00:19:12] and actually get the information ourselves because we were so young, we knew what happened.

[00:19:18] But I think in the last maybe five years, it’s in detail and you know, we’ve seen certain crime scene photos and we understand how savage it was and how brutal it was. And I mean, I, I believe that it was premeditated and planned by Molly. Yeah. And that all the evidence points to that. Absolutely, but she’s not convicted of that.

[00:19:41] Julie: Wow. I don’t [00:19:44] have nearly the same situation, but I had a situation where my dad and mom just were fighting. We were in the middle of the move and my mom took us from the city that we were supposed to be living in to another city, to kind of fully him. I don’t know what he would’ve done. He was a good man, but he was very angry, uh, a lot of times, and she did that to just.

[00:20:09] Protect yourself and to protect us, but. My dad passed away. Uh, we weren’t talking at the [00:20:16] time and I just started hearing from him before I even knew that he was gone. And I really believe with all my heart that our loved ones are just right here with us. Even if they’re on the other side, that they’re sending us signs that they wanna still be part of our lives.

[00:20:35] They wanna communicate with us and guide us and know that they see the beauty, know that we’re putting out into the world and the friendships and the relationships that we have. Do you feel like you’ve [00:20:48] seen that presence with your mom and your dad?

[00:20:50] Sarah: Absolutely. Coming through. Absolutely. Yeah,

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[00:24:14] Sarah: I definitely believe that souls are interconnected, you know, and I think especially that someone’s that you love is always gonna be around because you keep them alive with memories.

[00:24:25] And there is a place where near I live, it’s called St. Bridge as well. And it’s like [00:24:32] a sacred gem of Ireland and it’s not really well known, but people come from all over the world to leave photos and letters for their loved ones, and it’s so special. You know, there’s no gate on it. You don’t have to pay to go there.

[00:24:44] It’s literally just this little well up dirt road and it’s, when you walk in, it’s just surrounded by photos and you know, rosary beads and different letters and candles and. You go in and you just feel so loved. And the first time [00:25:04] we went there was after Covid, my nana passed away, um, through Covid. And my mom Tracy, my earth mom found, um, the, well when she was off on a drive one day and she brought us there.

[00:25:16] And it just felt like everyone that I’ve lost in my life was just standing next to me. Do you know? And just saying, we’re here. And you know when you see white butterflies, my dad and mom and my, anytime there’s been anniversaries or something, I always see white butterflies and at their grave I always see white butterflies and [00:25:36] I speak openly at their grave.

[00:25:37] I remember I was, I think I was like 13 at the time and I had a dance competition and I did the full dance for them in the grave. The full dance. And I’m sure everyone else thought I was crazy, but I was delighted. I wanted them to see it. I did really well in that competition and I just felt like my parents were saying well done to me.

[00:25:56] Yeah, there’s a lot of things, even just when a song comes on on the radio. Yeah. And you know, like we were driving to Dublin ’cause I was on the Late Late Show, which is the biggest show in [00:26:08] Ireland, which is pretty nerve wracking. Um, and the people that I was on with was like the tea shock, which is like.

[00:26:14] You know, the main guy in the government, and it was really nerve wracking basically. Um, and this song called Sarah Came on

[00:26:22] Julie: Mm.

[00:26:22] Sarah: That my dad used to sing to me when I was a baby, and I had not, like, as soon as I heard it, I knew it, but I’d never thought about it. I never, never even crossed my mind. Yeah. And I remember me and Tracy looked at each other and we were just both like.

[00:26:38] You knew. Hi [00:26:40] dad.

[00:26:43] And it just, it made me feel like he was like, you can do this, Sarah. Yeah. Good job. Do you know I’m proud of you, sweetheart.

[00:26:49] Julie: Yeah. And then he’s right there. He’s watching, he’s helping. Yeah. Definitely amazing. I feel like they were with you as you wrote this book and that just huge service to the world sharing your story.

[00:27:00] And it is such a story of love of your Earth mom, Tracy coming in and, and the love that she brought. Um, and I think that. This story in your [00:27:12] book, A Time for Truth. I hope everybody who’s listening today just supports it and buys this book because we buy so many different books. But there are ones that we can pass and share and, uh, I think this is a sacred, beautiful, beautiful book.

[00:27:27] So thank you so much. Yeah. I wanted to bring through a couple of messages for you, if that would be all right.

[00:27:34] Sarah: Yeah, definitely.

[00:27:36] Julie: I think that there’s so many times in life where unless you’ve experienced a, a bigger tragedy like you have, maybe you [00:27:44] don’t realize until your forties or your fifties just how sacred every moment is.

[00:27:49] And when we were talking earlier, before we were recording, you were talking about. Um, the day before your dad passed and hearing like the last words that he spoke to you and that it was just like this beautiful day outside. And it is those little moments of being present in life that I’m really starting to see is.

[00:28:11] Life itself, uh, which I feel like you [00:28:16] feel when I was just kind of praying on your energy and asking your loved ones to come through with information they just said, please tell her that it’s so easy for us to get in our own heads and thank you know. Is this really making an impact? Is this really helping anyone?

[00:28:35] But I, I am not sure if you’ve made a career out of this, but I think that if you wanted to travel and speak and teach, you have this beautiful soul that is just here to help and [00:28:48] serve. And through your story, I think people will understand. I wanna say forgiveness too, just. I don’t think that forgiveness means allowing somebody back into your life.

[00:29:00] And I think that forgiveness can also mean it still hurts, and it is so incredibly painful for the rest of our lives. I actually think forgiveness is one thing that’s so misunderstood

[00:29:12] Sarah: because a lot of the time it’s, it’s kind of like forgiveness for yourself, you know? And that’s a big theme of the [00:29:20] book.

[00:29:20] Yeah. Because statements that I made. Became a big part of why the Martins are free today.

[00:29:27] Julie: Mm.

[00:29:27] Sarah: And that was really hard to come to terms with because I was so young and I was so scared. And I talk about the reasons why I made those statements. And yeah, it’s taken a lot to forgive my 8-year-old self for saying the things that I said.

[00:29:43] Yeah. So I think a lot of people think that forgiveness is just about I’m, I forgive someone for hurting me. But it could just be, I forgive [00:29:52] myself for doing that, or I forgive that person for what they did, but I’m not gonna forget it.

[00:29:59] Julie: Yeah. Yeah, and I get that. I get that so much. When I was talking about my mom leaving my dad, there was this thing that happened when we were moving from Virginia down to Louisiana, and the very first night that we were there, they were just fighting like cats and dogs so bad.

[00:30:15] My mom got up in the middle of the night and just went for a drive, and I remember being so scared for her because it was raining really bad. She didn’t know the [00:30:24] area. And we were just in this hotel room and one bedroom, you know, two beds. And I remember my mom getting up in the morning, getting into the shower, and my dad just kinda waking me up, kind of shaking me.

[00:30:38] And he, he was like, who do you wanna live with? Me or your mother? And you know, when you’re just waking up, you’re groggy, you’re tired. Yeah. And I was scared myself. There was a time when. I don’t wanna paint my dad as like this bad guy, but there was a time when, um, a couple months [00:30:56] before, uh, he said, be home.

[00:30:58] By this time I had gone to a fair with some friends in the eighth grade and I got home late and he actually had the guns out and he was shining the guns as kind of a warning of, I told you to be home at this time and you weren’t. So I remember being like. In a situation where he’s shaking me and this morning and saying, who do you wanna live with?

[00:31:20] And I just said, out of fright, you in the courts, he tried to use that to get custody, which was [00:31:28] really hard. But you don’t know when you’re just so little. You’re just, of

[00:31:32] Sarah: course.

[00:31:32] Julie: Yeah. You

[00:31:33] Sarah: just don’t think that that’s gonna, it’s not your first thought that this is gonna be used in court. Right. You’re just trying to deal as a child, I think you just try to deal with the situation.

[00:31:42] In that moment, you don’t have the foresight to understand what’s gonna happen in the future, how these words are gonna affect your life in the future. You’re just trying to make everyone happy. I think a lot. And deescalate

[00:31:56] Julie: like it. Yeah. Yeah. Deescalate the situation. Situation

[00:31:59] Sarah: because it’s [00:32:00] two people that you love and that you care about.

[00:32:01] Julie: Yeah.

[00:32:02] Sarah: And you just want everyone to be happy. And I, I think that’s also another thing that I had to struggle with when I was very young, is because. I, I knew that my family situation was not good. I knew that there was a lot of tension, but at the same time, it was still my family. Right. You know, I didn’t want anything to change.

[00:32:22] I didn’t, I didn’t want to move away from my house. I didn’t wanna move away from my dad or my mom or my brother. And that’s kind of a part of why me [00:32:32] and Jack made those statements, because Molly had told us that we would be separated if we didn’t.

[00:32:36] Julie: Mm.

[00:32:37] Sarah: And I just lost my dad. I, I couldn’t lose my brother.

[00:32:40] Yeah. Do you know? And I didn’t wanna move from my friends and my school and Right. You know, I think that it’s a misconception that like when kids say things, you know, they don’t know what they mean. They do know what they mean, but why are they saying it?

[00:32:56] Julie: Yes. Yeah. Yeah, a hundred percent. Sarah, you’re such a beautiful blessing in this world.

[00:33:03] Uh, when I [00:33:04] was praying this morning, they said, ask her one question at the end. Ask her, you know, if you could say something to your younger self and just give her some love and words of wisdom, what would you say to her? Now I would tell

[00:33:21] Sarah: her that everything is going to be okay. And that she’s doing her best and that’s all that she can do.

[00:33:26] Yeah, and that I’m proud of her.

[00:33:28] Julie: Amazing. Thank you for sharing your story and writing this book and just being the hugest blessing on earth and thank [00:33:36] you so

[00:33:36] Sarah: much for having me on. This has actually been so lovely. I really enjoyed this.

[00:33:40] Julie: Oh, good. I hope we get to meet in person one day. If you ever come to the States, let me know and I’ll, um, I’ll promote your book tour if you ever come over here.

[00:33:49] Sarah: Thank you so much.

[00:33:50] Julie: Yeah, of course. Thank you everybody for listening. You can find Sarah’s book anywhere. Books are Found A Time for Truth, and her name is Sarah Corbett Lynch will put all of that information and the link to buy the book in the show notes. Thank you, Sarah.

[00:34:06] Sarah: Thank you.

[00:34:07] Julie: [00:34:08] Thank you for being here, beautiful soul.

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