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  So an integrated trauma, we know the body keeps score. The body, what doesn’t get processed and integrate at the time of the trauma exposure, gets stored in the body, right? So, and it can wreak all sorts of havoc on, on, and especially chronic conditions. And so what happens in my research, I reframed that to call it unhealed bits of wisdom.

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Hello, beautiful souls. Welcome back to the angels and awakening podcast. I’m your host and author, Julie Jancius and friends today, we have a very special episode for you. We have Dr. Lori on to talk about her new book, nursing our healers hearts. It’s a book about the nursing profession, but I think that we could also look at it within just a few minutes.

All of our hearts, because my husband’s a teacher and a lot of what you’re saying about burnout applies to teachers as well. Um, you say on the back of the book, the nursing profession is in crisis. I would say that for teachers too, within a decade, the world will have just one half the number of nurses it needs.

The global nursing workforce has experienced mass complex trauma secondary to the health care systems, inadequacies and global pandemic traumatized and burnt out. Nurses are leaving their roles or their profession in unprecedented numbers. Those who remain are stretched to or beyond their capacity.

Well, system level strategies aim toe address this crisis, none of them consider nurse traumatization and its impact upon patient safety outcomes and the quality of care. We cannot wait for health systems to prioritize nurse safety. Nurses can and must come together as global community to heal through avoidable, uh, and unavoidable nurse specific traumatization while partnering with health.

Healthcare leaders to usher in a new era of nursing. Wow. Dr. Lori, thank you so much for being here on

the show. Thank you so much for having me. And so, so beautifully did you read the, the back of the book blurb that I want to retain you to do the audio book. That was beautiful. Thank you for that lovely introduction.

Oh, thank you so, so much. I appreciate that. Um, Talk to us about this. I mean, this is a huge, huge, staggering number. Within a decade, the world will have just over half the number of nurses it needs. Now, I just want to put this in perspective for people. I have been going through a health challenge myself, which I finally figure, feel like I’m getting figured out.

We’re in the first weeks of December here. August, September, October, November, I have not felt totally like myself. Um, and I can’t get in to see my primary without waiting five to eight weeks. Um, and I live in a. A huge city. I mean, Chicago is massive and our suburbs are huge. You cannot get in to see some of the specialists.

I was recommended to for a year, some of the specialists, three to four months. We, what is happening first and foremost?

Yeah, so what is happening? And, you know, I happen to be a nurse scholar, but I’m also a healthcare scientist, so I have looked at what’s happening with primary care and, and the specialty care and nurses, and I have taken this kind of global look, um, in my research.

And so what we have is that we have, um, a healthcare, we have very good people. Excellent healers. And I talk about the healers heart. We have, you know, I myself at 40 years as a healing arts practitioner. So we have people who are very educated, skilled, and they’re healing arts practitioners who have showed up to serve people who are experiencing a health care challenge.

And what we find is a poorly designed system that oftentimes here in the United States prioritizes profits, Yeah. Over, over the health and well being of the patients, the professional safety and professional well being of its employees. And over, so, so we’ve had for like 50 years, this, this kind of term called burnout syndrome from the 1970s when I still had braces on my teeth.

Right. And, and so I took a deep dive into the science and I was like, you know what, this is not trauma informed.

What does that mean? Trauma informed?

So, so trauma, trauma informed means that we are looking at the whole person, including their trauma history, right? Which means individual traumas, like maybe if you’ve been in a car accident, or your house has flooded, or you have been displaced, you know, and temporarily or permanently unsheltered, like any of those individual Um, traumas.

Then there’s kind of the complex traumas, which might be something that you’re navigating with, you know, this, this mystery of why, why can’t I, I mean, this is, this is a trauma exposure that you’re experiencing. I am unwell, unbalanced in my physical being, and I am seeking help from the system who is not helping me.

That’s called system induced trauma, and, and so, you know, and then we have trauma from disasters, and we have, you know, neglect, we have the early, um, you know, childhood traumas, the adverse events, the ACEs, and so all of those things, what we know, and what the American Association College of Nursing tells us is that we, as nurses, are to assume that every single person on this planet, without exception, has some trauma history.

We don’t need to know what it is. We don’t need to uncover it, right? Because that could actually be detrimental. But we do need to make that assumption. And so that’s sort of how trauma informed care comes into, you know, being sensitive to that, being sensitive to how the body will hold, will store, It’s called unintegrated trauma.

I call it unhealed bits of wisdom that are stored in the body that emerge when conditions are favorable for healing. Right? So, unintegrated trauma, we know the body keeps score. The body, what doesn’t get processed and integrate at the time of the trauma exposure, gets stored in the body. Right. So, and it can wreak all sorts of havoc on, on, and especially chronic conditions.

And so what happens in, in my research, I reframed that to call it unhealed bits of wisdom

and

bits of wisdom. And when we get a cue from our external environment, I don’t use the word triggered because it’s And kind of triggering in and of itself. Yes, it’s a violent word. Why would we bring that kind of language into a healing paradigm, right?

And so reframing all of that, and so we have unhealed bits of wisdom, each and every one of us on this planet have unhealed bits of wisdom within us, and they will emerge. Not always at a convenient time, not always in a comfortable manner for healing. And, and so when that comes up for healing, it can be, you know, we need support in that, we need, it can be a bumpy ride.

And really when we start looking at this through the lens of, and I’m going to get just a smidge geeky, but when we look through it, through the lens of relational neuroscience. All right, so looking at the science of relationships and how that affects our physiology. Well what we find is that we are meant, we are evolutionarily, genetically programmed to co heal and co regulate.

With one another and so here you are and and millions just like you, right? So we have we have patients who are going through our and we’re to assume that they have a trauma history right, which which arguably well do because humanity endured a Pandemic not long ago and that was a trauma to humanity.

So, you know Experience differently by all of us. So humanity has experienced a mass trauma and we were so eager. We understandably so to to get back to normal quote unquote. We need to get back to normal. We need to, you know, and so what happened is now humanity. Has all of this unintegrated trauma, because we didn’t have, most of us, didn’t have, whether it was, whether it was a global situation, or whether it was something from our childhood, or whether it was something that happened at work, like, you know, the violence against healthcare providers is, is staggering.

And a trauma of itself. We haven’t even gotten into the traumas that the healthcare workers experience, right?

Right.

And so what happens is it gets stored in the body largely because we don’t have the people that we perceive that we need. before, during, and after the trauma to help us integrate. Or if we have people who love us, that’s not to say we don’t have people who love us and are showing up for us.

I’m not saying that. And so this is where in my work, it gets really juicy is because that’s where I bring in what we call in the sciences, other ways of knowing, which means Bringing in the angels, bringing in guides, bringing, you know, connecting and, and taking this really holistic approach

to

healing.

And so we have this sort of, so we have patients who are getting traumatized because, because there’s not enough resources, there’s not enough providers. You’re waiting a year to see a specialist, right? And two years in other parts of the world of the people that I’m talking to. And now you What parts of the world

is that?

Yeah.

Well, in Canada, where they, where they have, you know, national health care programs, not always, but, you know, in some instances, it could take two years. Um, I have clients over in, in Europe, in Italy, and, um, it could take, uh, for, for a routine female procedure, um, it could take, you know, upwards of nine, 12 months.

Um,

so those are people who I imagine because I’ve been going through this have a ton of pain and need to probably have that procedure immediately. But these are people who are waiting nine, 12 months in intense pain, probably before being able to Wow,

which is a trauma. It’s it’s system induced trauma.

We have we have language. We have science for that. And so what what we have is kind of this perfect storm and you’re you’re and I’m so sad that you’re navigating it. But also, thank you for sharing your story. your story so courageously because because it really does speak like I got full body goosebumps right now it really does speak to what’s happening so you’re experiencing the situation the system is traumatizing you because it can’t take care of you and you are unwell unbalanced in your body and you’re doing everything in your power right as we all do to to regain and our body is always working towards It’s always working towards homeostasis and you’re partnering with your body and you’re doing all of the things and and then you when you do finally get into the health care system, you’re met with health care providers who are also traumatized.

So we have traumatized people trying to care for traumatized students. people in a broken system. And this is what, you know, as, as what I call our healer’s heart, our why for getting into the profession. You know, it’s not, it’s, you know, being, being a health provider of any, getting through any of that is traumatic of itself, the way that we are educated and, um, the rigor and, um, also in those settings, lack of resources.

And, you know, the story just sort of, Problem aids out. And so now we have a broken health care system. We have patients who are experiencing trauma secondary to that broken system because they can’t get in. They can’t get, you know, and then when they do get in, it’s so short staffed and under resourced and and then there’s the violence and the and the incivilities and the bullying and, you know, The, the near miss events and the adverse events and, and so it’s this, it’s kind of like this pressure cooker of, of, of trauma exposure.

But what’s happening, and this is where the gap is, is that we’re, as a, as a culture, we’re still calling it burnout. It’s not burnout. It’s not burnout.

Go deeper.

Yes, let’s go deeper. And so I did a whole symptom cluster analysis at the the symptoms and I went down all the research rabbit holes because that’s you know, that’s that’s what I do for my day job.

And I was like, Oh, my, there is considerable overlap. I mean, Like, I don’t have the number offhand, but like 80 90 percent overlap of symptoms of, of burnout and um, and trauma, either immediate or delayed responses to trauma.

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Well, that’s what really got me going.

Exactly. And if you ever would like to a job and training as a scientist, Julie, that’s like a perfect research question right there. Yay. Yay. Yeah. And, and so, so I started looking at this whole burnout, um, syndrome and taking a look at its historical roots and I’m like, You know, this is this. We didn’t have trauma science in the 70s.

You know, at that point, it thought it was thought that PTSD was limited to combat military personnel say, right? And then and then maybe or sometime around in the 80s. It’s like, well, okay, if you’ve been sexually assaulted, maybe. Maybe you, maybe we’ll call that a trauma, you know, and so you start really looking at the impact, the physiological impact, the spiritual impact.

I mean, I went, I went through a health condition where I was, I was almost dying. I mean, I couldn’t even sit on the side of the field to watch my children’s soccer games. I had to lay down and I went through 20 years of getting sicker and sicker and same thing. And I, I. I had access. I was able to get through.

Well, we didn’t know that our, our moldy house, I had toxic mold in the house and I was, I was being poisoned by, by this house. And, but, but that uncertainty for almost 20 years of getting progressively worse and like starting to get It’s somewhat paralyzed and not being able to even sit upright at a soccer game and not being able to, you know, be a mom in the ways that, that you want to.

And so that brings in all sorts of spiritual or existential crisis too, you know, because, because now everything’s just sort of unraveling. Right, we’re, we’re, we’re not well in our bodies and, and, and it’s stressful for our minds and it’s stressful on our relationships and it’s bring stress into our emotional body and, and then we start to question things and, and our faith gets, um, you know, uh, maybe a little wobbly.

In my case, it deepened. Like, it was like, it was part of my awakening process, which, which happens a lot too through extreme suffering, as you know. Yeah. So, so here we have all of these symptoms that are the same. And so I was working with nurses in my practice, um, who were experiencing quote unquote burnout.

And this is like when I was researching and I was writing, you know, getting ready to write the book. And, and I was like, why, why are all the nurses. 50 years I’ve been around, a half of a century, that’s how old I am, right? How come nothing has gotten better? Like, I was so perplexed. And, and so I started taking, um, a trauma informed approach.

I started, leaned into polyvagal theory, which maybe you’ve had people talk about on your show. Ah, well that’s, um, Okay, we’re gonna have to do a whole nother episode on just that. But, but there’s a theory out there that’s relatively new that it kind of gives, um, framework and language to this differentiation between burnout and And, and trauma.

And so I started taking this trauma informed approach using Stephen Porges’s, just so in case any of your listeners are interested, and, um, it’s called polyvagal theory, and it has to do with how our autonomic nervous system, kind of our primal Our most primal system that is below our level of consciousness, kind of in the midbrain and the vagus nerve, and how the organism in a very primal way responds to these trauma exposures.

And so we have misattributed to, oh, it’s just stress. Oh, it’s just burnout. Oh, nurses and, and physicians and patients. It’s, you know, it’s all in your head. You just need to work on your resilience, right? And so, what that amounts to, and even if you look at the World Health Organization’s definition of burnout, it says that it’s occupational stress that is not being effectively managed.

Does that sound like blaming the victim to you?

Oh, absolutely.

Because it sounded that way to me. And so, so it’s like, wow, we have this, and how convenient for for profit health care systems. How convenient is this narrative of, you know, Julie, you should just do better with your self care. And then your health will improve.

Julie, you should just work on your resilience. Pat on the head. Here’s a pizza party. Now, now it goes back to

a paper that I did in college. Um, I was a history major and I remember, um, Doing this paper and coming to the conclusion that our society is set up in a way where there is so much thrown at us.

And this was back in, you know, 2000. Um, I think it’s even more so now there is so much thrown at us that we cannot possibly keep up with it all, but it’s kept that way kind of on purpose. Going back to what you were saying. Um, and I, I love leaving a capitalistic society. I would not want to live in any other country.

I love this country. So my family members were founders of this country. Um, love it. But at the same time, And we’re so busy that we just cannot physically do it all. It’s not possible.

Well, and your insight as, as a, as a young woman writing a paper is so poignant right now. And, and so then when we start looking at some of these kind of geeky things, and that’s my department is to look at polyvagal theory and then look at, there’s another, there’s another predominant theory out there and it’s called cell danger response theory.

And, and what that tells us. Is that just exactly what you observed? Okay, so 100%, if I were your professor, 100 percent on that paper, girl.

I think I got a

93. All right, well, you were undergraded. So, um, so you start looking at the effect of the trauma exposure, right? Or chronic stress. Both our organisms, our human physiology, we are, we are genetically equipped to manage short, intense, acute bursts of stress, right?

That’s what we’re designed for. That is what we have evolved for, um, over the millennia, right? And, And then we are in this society that and the inputs and the amount of expectations and, you know, and the all of the things right. I mean, we have very rich and complex lives and that’s beautiful. When, however, when, however, the trauma exposure is so great humanity sustained a trauma and we have not recovered.

As

a collective healthcare professionals have been in inordinate amount of trauma exposures that many of which are some of which we’re trained to manage, and a lot of them have to do with healthcare system inadequacies, just as you’re being traumatized by not being able to see a provider in a timely manner or see a specialist for a year.

You know, we’re showing up, but we want to help you. And we can’t either, you know, so it’s so it’s so it’s really frustrating and and so we start going down all of these rabbit holes and we start thinking like, wow, the mitochondria. Let’s look at the mitochondria. So for every human body, there’s this little organ illness called the mitochondria and it produces the energy.

For the whole organism. So these are every cell of your body has one super important energy production is is the difference between I can’t get out of bed and I’m talking to Julie today, right? Right? And being able to to do our lives. And so, so what, what the latest science is, is, is showing us through Dr.

Robert Naviot’s work is that the mitochondria get, they get, um, over this trauma exposure. Over, over this chronic stress. First they get a little rigid. You know, they, they, they get a little stiff and they can’t really do their jobs like, you know, we, we all have a big workout and then we don’t stretch afterwards.

And then the next day, we’re kind of like the tin man until we get warmed up again. Yeah. Right. So that happens to the energy production. But so now what’s happening? What’s happening for. Most patients, most healthcare employees, is that the stress that we have endured has been so great for so long that the mitochondria, those little organelles in each cell, are so depleted they are now getting dysfunctional, and they literally grow weak.

Cannot produce the energy that is required. And when that happens, it contributes to a whole host of mitochondria related chronic conditions, which are often often. Kind of lumped in with this. Oh, it’s anxiety. Oh, it’s depression. Oh, it’s chronic fatigue. Oh, it’s IBS. Oh, it’s any of the itises, right? Which, which may be true.

I’m not saying that that’s not true. But what I’m saying is we need to, we need to look beyond that narrative and like, well, what is the trauma history?

What

is, What, what’s, we don’t even have a tool, an instrument to assess unintegrated trauma. And the tool, yeah, the tool that we have to assess, the most widely used one, the, the um, the ACEs, um, Adverse Childhood Events Tool, um, I myself, and I’ll share this as courageously as you shared your, your challenge, I myself have severe, have recovered from severe PTSD to the point that my limbic system.

in my brain got injured. Like this is like, this is kind of, you know, pretty significant PTSD. I have, I have, you know, and, and I know it’s all divinely in divine right order because I had to walk and live every, every bit of the book and the research to really be able to be in service to my profession and, and to, you know, humanity, you know, in these ways.

And so I was assessed for, um, trauma. And the instrument didn’t capture the types of trauma that I had endured. They were very, you know, are you a combat military person? Uh, were you molested as a child? And those are all, those are all legitimate, you know, very, very sad and unfortunate things. But I had a lot of other sad and unfortunate things that weren’t captured by the tool.

And so I got misdiagnosed. over and over and over and over again. And it wasn’t until recent years in the last decade, you know, I’m a, I’m a very mature woman now, um, in the last decade that we got the right diagnosis. We got, you know, we got out of the moldy house and a full recovery. I’m in post traumatic growth right now and having, and now, and now I can’t unsee it.

Right. I can’t unsee this. And so, um, I, I decided to self fund this research because I didn’t want there to be any grant bias or any publication bias because there’s, you know, I mean, it, it exists and, and, and there’s editorial bias. Right. And so, so I kind of got on this mission and this is like, this is where my angels, um, and my spiritual team and my dharma and my life purpose and as I understand it in this form at this time, it’s like this is my calling.

And I, I started, you know, doing all the things that that I’ve been trained to do only with a much different purpose,

you know? And let’s go into that piece because what have you found is the solution to nursing our healer’s hearts, but for anybody who has dealt with trauma, healing the traumatized heart.

Yeah, the traumatized heart, the healer’s heart, the unhealed bits of wisdom, as though we’re having a cup of tea. It’s not a textbook. People think, oh, you’re a professor and a scientist. It must be a textbook. No, this is like me coming to you with my healer’s heart into your living room. And as though you and I are chatting right now.

And so I have a four step process and over a hundred practices in this book. The introduction is nurse specific and the last chapter is nurse specific, but everything else in between is really for everyone.

So do you have a tool that kind of helps people integrate and, and start to work with this trauma to heal the traumatized heart?

Yeah, the traumatized heart and the traumatized body. You know, it’s really, I call it the body mind essence, which captures the totality of the ancestral suffering that gets passed down through lineages and so forth. And so while I have over a hundred practices in the book, I have sort of a big framework and then a small practice.

And so I’ll give you the big picture and then I’ll give you a small, like, what can I do today in 30 seconds to help myself?

Perfect.

Beautiful. So in the big picture, we have to reframe, we have to reframe, and this is my four step process, what self care is. All right. So we all know, we all know that we need to sleep and hydrate and exercise and be in healthy relationships and take good care of our resources.

And, you know, all of the things that we need, we already know kind of, we’ll call those, The wellness domains, right? And so most people start there. I’m sure you’re doing all of those things as you’re navigating your own thing, as I did when I was navigating my health challenge, right? I’m doing all of the things I’m eating clean, yada, yada, yada.

But what we’re doing is we’re taking those self caring practices and they’re, they’re going on top of a nervous system. That is, that is maybe, and probably dysregulated. much of the time because of this, this underlying trauma component, this unintegrated trauma, or what I call the unhealed bits of wisdom.

And so before an underpinning, I think of it as building a house, you know, you want your house built on a sturdy foundation, you know, with good rebar and concrete and all of the, the right things so that your house is structured, is strong. And so this is where there’s the formula goes like this, there’s three A’s, one B, And that brings us to three R’s.

So let me unpack that. The three A’s are the foundation of your health, your house. And we start with the autonomic nervous system and the vagus nerve. Our most primal system that It innervates every cell in our body practically, right? Where are those systems? Uh, all of your body systems. So the autonomic nervous system, it, it, it is a very, it’s primal and also complex, but it innervates all of our organs.

All of our bodies. So nervous system, endocrine system, muscle system, you know, it, it, it is all, you know, we’re, we’re whole human beings. We’re inseparable from the systems within our bodies. We just separate them for the purpose of conversation and diagnostics. Right? And so the three A’s really are how we start taking care of our autonomic nervous system and we start attending to whatever our trauma history might be.

And I’m not suggesting we go back and we do revisionist history. We do not go back and relive traumas. We do not go back and write them all down and journal them. We do not do that because that will overwhelm the system. Right? We know that these unhealed bits are residing with us in them, and we trust that in divine right order, they will emerge for healing in a way that we are, have the tools and the support that we need to do that healing.

Right? So, so don’t try and like, don’t, don’t be lorry. Don’t be Lori who said, bring it on. I’m going to write down every trauma I ever had in my journal. And I set myself through myself. I didn’t even get to age nine and I was like, I dysregulated for two weeks. So do not be Lori when, when Lori was doing the research, you know,

Let’s just pause on that because I have felt that for a lot of time and the way that I do Um, inner child work is much different from what I’ve seen in any other book out there, because what the angels always show me is that taking people back into that trauma, exactly what you just said, just total flare up within the body, the mind, the energy field.

And so There’s a way to do inner child work. I have a course in my membership where I walk people through this, but you don’t have to relive it. And I think that this is a, uh, a thing that’s really not being spoken enough about within the spiritual community, because people talk so much about the shadow work and then inner child work.

And there’s a lot of different components that can take you back into the depths of kind of this darkness in our lives. But. To me, that has never worked for me.

Well, and it doesn’t work for most, so thank you. And, and I got similar counsel from my own angels. And, and I had to, I had to live that. And because, because I, you know, sometimes, sometimes I’m not a great listener.

I’m a much better listener now than I was in my 30s, but, but sometimes I’m still not a great listener. And, and I experienced a lesson as a result of not being a great listener. And this was one of those lessons for me. It was like, you know, this isn’t necessary. And I’m like, nope, I’m doing all this research, you know, I’m all in my science y brain.

And I’m like, I’m going to heal it all this afternoon, you know, and that’s just not how it was. And so, and so the three A’s are the gentle way of getting in and probably, you’re probably already doing this in your own, your own beautiful course, which I took a peek at and I’m just, I’m just so I mean, I got full body chills.

What you are doing, Julie, is amazing. is just fabulous. And so the, the three A’s are first becoming aware that you have an autonomic nervous system, that you have a vagus nerve, and be aware that you probably have a trauma history. And if you have been feeling burned out, like teachers, like lawyers, anyone who is what I call a helping professional,

we’re

all kind of in these broken systems, struggling in very similar ways from the lens of our physiology.

Through the lens of trauma, through the lens of cell danger response theory, through the lens of these kind of related chronic conditions. So the first day is to become aware. Aware of how it is feeling in your body. Being aware that you have this, you know, like getting, getting a, becoming aware of polyvagal theory.

And seeing and observing and getting acquainted with your body, your mind, your essence, your spirit, in this sort of, through this lens. You’re like, I, I have been through a lot. You have been through a lot. We all have been through a lot. And in our contemporary society, it’s like, yeah, and so what’s next?

There’s no pause to process. There’s no time to integrate. Um, mental health resources are still so, it’s so much better than when I was coming up, but you know, still such stigma. And many healthcare professionals won’t go because we’re afraid of losing our jobs.

Right?

You know, the stigma still persists.

Traction and progress has been made. I want to acknowledge the progress that has been made. But about 30 percent of the nurses that I’ve surveyed, um, do not, will not get mental health care. For, for fear of, of, of judgment, stigma, or, or losing their, their job. So we need to become more aware. And then the second A is attending to our nervous system, depending upon where you are, there’s three A’s.

Three circuits and four hybrids. And we can’t unpack all of that in the time that we have, but I’m happy to come back and we can unpack it if, if it’s something that resonates with, with your beautiful community, because whom I love already, right? Yay. So, so learning to, to assess, kind of assess where am I in my nervous system today?

When I say nervous system, I’m talking autonomic nervous system. It’s just, it’s a whole bunch of Too many words. So nervous system, vagus nerve is what I’m talking about. So where am I in this moment? You know, I just had this stressful encounter or I just had an argument with my partner or I’ve got this very stressful situation at work and I’m feeling some kind of way in my body about it, but I don’t have the words and I don’t have the tools to know what it is or how to navigate it.

All right. That’s the attending. So we have awareness. attending. And then there’s the third A, and this is all nervous system support, is the alignment. And this is a big part of what you’re doing. I know in your work, because I can, because I can, I can see it and feel it from, from here is that, you know, finding that congruence between our inner reality and our external world.

Sometimes our external world is a mirror, inward to guide us as to where an unhealed bit might be kind of reverberating, might be liberating itself from the body so, so that we can transmute and heal that, right?

Yeah.

And then sometimes our inner reality gives us clues about our external world. So like, Oh, maybe, maybe I’m in a health relationship that’s not healthy for me.

This relationship isn’t feeling good. And so sometimes, so it’s this, you know, harmonizing our inner and outer worlds really, and getting them to be in alignment. So the three A’s are kind of the inside work.

Yeah.

The awareness. That’s the core of the practice. And then the next piece of that is the B, which is for balance.

And that’s all of the self care things we already know. We don’t need to unpack that because we all know and live it, right? We know what to do. The challenge is, is that we’re putting what we know how to do on a dysregulated or unintegrated trauma. And there, and, and so we aren’t progressing, we aren’t moving forward, the symptoms aren’t resolving.

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com backslash contact. And last but not least, leave a five star review and you could win a free 20 minute session. Last year, I did 56 free readings for review winners. All links are in the show notes. Thank you for listening. Now back to the show. Or looking at it too, from a different mindset, you know, uh, I came to the realization yesterday, um, we don’t have time to go into it.

I know, but like I struggle with PMDD and, uh, cysts, you know, in my ovaries and that female area and endometriosis and pelvic floor weakness and vocal weakness as well, that can give me pain. Um, and what I found is that it’s. all connected. That’s the big aha moment that I have a very weak core. Um, the breath work needs to go all the way down to the pelvic floor.

There’s a lot to this, but the aha moment that I had yesterday was. Going back to being a child in P E and I would think to myself, what’s the least amount of work I can do in P E, right? Like, I don’t want to have to do this. I just want to be able to read my books, you know, do what I want to do. I don’t want to have to work out.

Um, but it was the wrong way of looking at it. What’s the least I can do instead? Looking at it as the body needs to do To be strong so that my voice can be strong to speak. And just so that I can have this core within me to be able to, to live, especially getting into my older years, forties here, um, Yeah.

So that balance I’m finding different mindset shifts come up a lot lately.

Yeah. And the alignment too. It’s like, you know, and, and maybe 12 year old Julie at that time, maybe all of her female parts as they were developing, it might’ve been your body’s wisdom, right? It might’ve been your body’s wisdom in that moment that you know what, there’s some, there’s my femaleness that needs to be better supported and those resources weren’t available and so that could have been your body’s wisdom but then it becomes a narrative and that’s I think what you’re speaking to it becomes a belief that oh well you know I should this or I shouldn’t that instead of this really compassionate um tender ways as though we nurture our inner children right as though we nurture a newborn kitten or our newborn family members, right?

With that degree of nurturance saying, you know what, I really had a hard time in P. E. when I was growing up, and I’m wondering, I’m curious, I’m curious about how that’s affecting my, my today, you know, perspective, my today health care, you know, symptoms or whatever, and, and holding that in such reverence and such compassion as I know you are doing, you know, it’s beautiful, it’s beautiful to see, um, You know, you’d be so, so attuned in those ways.

And I know you’re sharing that with your beautiful community. And I’m just, I’m just here for all of that. So I don’t know if you want to hear about the last part of this. Yes, we got the three

A’s plus the B and give us the last bit.

Because the three R’s are the good part. We don’t want to leave you without a so called happy ending, using that term very loosely.

Very family friendly, friendly use of that word. So the three R’s are first of all, first and foremost, and the most important thing for our nervous system and those mitochondria that are producing all of the energy for us, right? We get regulated in our nervous system. That’s the first R. And I’ll tell you, and I know you know this because you’re working with people as I am, is that when people are dysregulated in their nervous system, healing is not as accessible.

Yeah,

it just isn’t. Um, and so the first and foremost thing is to get regulated in our nervous system, which is the output. This is, this is what comes of the three A’s and the B. If you engage in the three A’s and the B, you will get regulated in your nervous system. You will get a sense of reconnection within yourself because you’re dropping in every day.

with yourself, you’re showing up for yourself in a very intimate, personal way that our society does not support. And it doesn’t have to be a two hour thing. It can be a five minute, you know, check in sort of thing, you know, with your morning cup of hot, whatever. Um, and, and so So you get a sense of connection and there’s a whole lot of scientific reasons why we feel disconnected within, which we won’t unpack all of that today, but we do feel a sense of disconnectedness within and that translate to a sense of disconnectedness in our outer world.

So you could be in your family and your friends, your best, your BFF friend group, right? You could be with your. tribe and still feel utterly alone,

right?

Because there’s just, you know, and so, so that connectedness, that sense of connectedness. So we have, um, the first R is regulated in our nervous system.

The second R is reconnected within and with others. And then the third R is healer’s heart, which is, um, our why, our why for doing what matters most in our life. Like, you know, in our deepest layers, our deepest truth, um, and reconnecting with that because that sort of gets obliterated. through the trauma experience and especially if the trauma isn’t fully healed.

So that’s sort of, that’s all of the teachings in, in my, in the book and, and practices to go along with each step of, of, of the journey so that you’re not, you’re not alone. You know,

amazing.

Yeah.

Dr. Lori, you are so amazing. Your book, our nursing, our healers heart is just fantastic. I’m so glad that you took on this work as a scientist yourself.

Um, you are just so incredible. We are going to put your website in the show notes along with your book and where everybody can find your book. Um, I’m just so grateful. Thank you so, so much for being on the show.

And thank you, Julie, most sincerely for the important work you’re doing. I mean, I can feel, I can feel you from across the country and it is beautiful.

So I am just so happy to be here and thank you. Thank you for all that you, the way you are showing up for your community. It’s, it’s really, y’all are so blessed.

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